General election

Quoted from grimsby pete

My point Ginny was if we got no deal we would not be able to buy their cars without a heavy tax put on them,

In my old age I do not explain myself very well,

BUT

I do know this mate,

Corbyn, Abbott and Macdonald will ruin this country if they got in,

If you keep hitting the company's and so called higher earners with more and more tax they will go elsewhere,

We will be back to high inflation and that is no good to nobody,

I did say on my last post that was my final word on the subject but I have replied to you because I respect your views.

I might be showing early  signs of losing my marbles and if that is the case I will see no problem in having to pay towards my care,

Unlike some on here who want everything for free.

And where are they going to go? Even if they reach the levels Labour are saying for 2020, there will still only be a couple of countries with a lower corporation tax (Spain and South Korea).

So according to Pete my new Bmw is going to be a collectors item in the near future.  

If the wealthy want to leave the country because they don't want to pay their way, then let them. Of course, it means that they won't be able to live in London or the south east with all it's attractions. If they want to keep holiday homes here, fair enough, but let's make sure they are taxed soundly on them. Presumably their wives may need to move away from the UK with them though their kids could still be sent to the expensive Private Schools as boarders, I suppose. I'd imagine it would be good for the European mistress trade if the wives stay at home as hubby lives somewhere on the continent for most of the year.

Top rates of Income Tax were 60% for much of the Thatcher era (though she'd hacked it down from 83% before then) and this was during the boom of the 1980s which Tories seem to claim as some sort of Halcyon era. Oddly enough, when the rate was cut down to 40% in the late 1980s, the deficit increased hugely. Funny thing that, eh?

As for Corporation tax, the race to the bottom won't stop under the Tories, idiotic thought it is. You need to check out how things work in countries which operate as tax havens. Life is miserable for much of the populace because - surprise, surprise - the rich and companies who stash their money there are actually very good at not paying tax so the governments in these tax havens have little to spend on their populace.

It's just amazing that so many people have been so completely hoodwinked about the nature of tax and economics since the neoliberal era began and yet the rich become ever-richer as the poorest become poorer.

Fundamentally, whenever you hear the phrase, "Tax and Spend" you should know it is utter balderdash. We have a fiat currency completely under our control so have the ability to spend as much as is necessary - call it a 'Magic Money Tree', if you like (yes, it really exists!) - tax can then used to shape spending and society as a whole, preferably for the better as well as keeping inflation in check. Remember that Quantitative Easing thing you've heard about? That is £435 billion of money created by the Bank of England out of nothing to keep the banks and economy afloat and some economists even claim this QE could just be cancelled out without any hint of repayment being required. That argument is a whole different kettle of fish, however.

Don't believe me? Here's what that notorious left-wing rag, The Daily Telegraph noted on the matter the other year:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fin.....cts-about-money.html

I wonder how many people realise that when they get a loan from a bank or a mortgage, the money given which appears in their account is created out of thin air? It is then destroyed as it is paid back though, of course, the banks still get to keep the interest you've paid to them.

I read Roger Moores biography recently and he said at the height of his fame in the mid 70s (under A Labour goverment) his income tax rose from 83% to 98%! no wonder he copulated off with the likes of Connery, Bowie and the Stones never to return as a uk taxpayer whilst the country ground to a halt.

Must of cost the Uk millions in revenue but that's socialism for you, just to clarify thatcher did reduce the top rate from 83% to 60% and the basic rate from 33% to 30%.The basic rate was also cut for three successive budgets – to 29% in the 1986 budget, 27% in 1987 and to 25% in 1988.[21] The top rate of income tax was cut to 40% in the 1988 budget.

This is just one reason I am absolutely sick at the thought of Steptoe and Abbott getting anywhere near no.10 d they would make Wilson and Callaghan look semi competent. And don't even get me started on immigration the doors wouldn't just be open the flood gates would be wedged open, the sooner they could change the face, culture, democracy and freedom of Britain the better. absolute dangerous British hating racist vermin filthy illegitimates.

Quoted from Grim74

This is just one reason I am absolutely sick at the thought of Steptoe and Abbott getting anywhere near no.10 d they would make Wilson and Callaghan look semi competent. And don't even get me started on immigration the doors wouldn't just be open the flood gates would be wedged open, the sooner they could change the face, culture, democracy and freedom of Britain the better. absolute dangerous British hating racist vermin filthy illegitimates.

Someone sounds nervous. I thought it was going to be a whitewash for the tories.   You honestly can't trust May if she was going to walk into Brexit negotiations. She is hiding away from any public debates with any other leader as she is not strong enough to lead the country and stand up for the values which she believes in. She is also a threat to national security with the cuts she is making to our security services, border controls and the police forces. We will still have one of the lowest co-operation taxes in Europe even if labour raise the tax on the rich.

May's shtick today was funny, about how Brexit will allow us to build a utopia with all the new opportunities it provides. If this is the case, why was she a remainer last year?

The facts certainly haven't changed since then.

Also notable that she didn't try to sling any more mud at Corbyn after spending months at it. Why, it's almost as if she's had yet another U-turn in policy! Who'd have thought? Is that the first of the month?

Quoted from 1739

Someone sounds nervous. I thought it was going to be a whitewash for the tories.   You honestly can't trust May if she was going to walk into Brexit negotiations. She is hiding away from any public debates with any other leader as she is not strong enough to lead the country and stand up for the values which she believes in. She is also a threat to national security with the cuts she is making to our security services, border controls and the police forces. We will still have one of the lowest co-operation taxes in Europe even if labour raise the tax on the rich.

Yeah your right I am nervous but either way we are copulated, I don't think Corbyrn could actually win ( there's only so many Muslim voters, brainwashed uni students and stupid people out there) but he certainly could cut May's majority which would weaken her hand with the Brexit negotiations.

Personally I think she was going to stitch us (the patriotic Brexiters) up anyway with a watered down deal, but with a weakened majority this could be even worse we could end up leaving the corrupt union only in name only. She has let her party down with her no show and u turns she really is weak as urine, she's certainly no Iron Lady I don't even think I'm going to bother voting now.

Fook Brexit, sick of hearing about it. There's more to an election than what happens to us post EU. Nobody is focusing on the NHS, schools, industry, poverty etc etc. It's all about Brexit as if that is the only problem we have.

The simple fact of the matter is that the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer, this is indisputable and the Tories will not address that problem because they don't want to.

Good to see that across the board it is universally agreed that Theresa May's campaign has been urine-poor.

Matches her abilities to a tee.