|
marinerjase |
November 25, 2023, 9:08am |
|
Champagne Drinker
Posts: 2,148
Posts Per Day: 0.36
Reputation: 93.06%
Rep Score: +31 / -1
Location: Grimsby
Approval: +2,679
Gold Stars: 147
|
Spot on đ good post KAFV
|
| âI just f*cking threw myself at itâ
Mani D 23 May 2022 |
|
|
|
|
GibMariner |
November 25, 2023, 9:16am |
|
Lager Top Drinker
Posts: 272
Posts Per Day: 0.31
Reputation: 58.74%
Rep Score: +1 / -4
Approval: -964
Gold Stars: 21
|
The reason people like myself keep having to bring up Fenty is that some âfansâ have forgotten what he tried to do to our club.
In a similar vein, there were revisionist posts last week suggesting Holloway wasnât here solely for nefarious reasons.
The two of them tried to sell our club to a convicted fraudster. God knows what state the club would be in now without the leak.
So no, we are not âpretty much back where we came inâ.
Nobody sensible on here, including JS and AP, has ever suggested that the two of them were going to come in and sort out all the problems overnight. It could take years to get back to being a stable, upper L1 (or better) club. They might succeed. They might not. I donât know and neither do they.
Just because JS and AP have had some success in business, it doesnât mean this long-term project is going to be easy or successful.
I never doubted Fenty when he said it was a difficult, lonely job running a lower league football club. JS and AP are proving itâs not easy. However, Iâve seen nothing from them yet that would suggest they will try to destroy our club, in the same way as Fenty tried to do.
JS and AP should be challenged, they should be questioned. They shouldnât be viewed as saints. But the club is in a better state than it was when they joined. Itâs a pretty low bar, but I am genuinely worried for anyone who thinks that isnât so.
You seem very bitter person the way you interpret various things. But today how does it look any different. Successes on the field masks so much doesnât it and then is soon forgotten. Such is the case Letâs hope for the arrival of a lucky manager in the coming days, me hopes.
|
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|
toontown |
November 25, 2023, 9:16am |
|
Whiskey Drinker
Posts: 3,430
Posts Per Day: 0.57
Reputation: 91.63%
Rep Score: +13 / 0
Approval: +6,278
Gold Stars: 70
|
"nobody asked them to buy the club" or whatever the quote was - what a load of balderdash! When Fenty was trying to cook up the deal with the convicted fraudster we WERE practically pleading with JS and AP to buy the club and save us from possible doom. Jeez you only have to look down the road at scunny to see what could have happened and people could have had something to actually bleat about such as being in NLN or ceasing to exist even.
I'm still relieved they bought the club when they did. And they've had success in both years since anyway!
|
|
|
|
|
123614 |
November 25, 2023, 9:17am |
|
Guest User |
On the manager speculation - ââŚso donât believe everything you read on social mediaâŚthanks John Tondeurâ to laughs in the room. Clearly a harmless joke but some of the clowns on here have an axe to grind for some reason.
Exactly!
|
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|
jamesgtfc |
November 25, 2023, 9:18am |
|
Vodka Drinker
Posts: 6,055
Posts Per Day: 1.16
Reputation: 79.95%
Rep Score: +20 / -5
Approval: +13,041
Gold Stars: 190
|
Great post Knut!
I've said since the takeover that JS and AP will come under much more scrutiny because of how easy JF had it.
I think last night was ok, the questions from the floor were quite poor in the main. I've seen it done before where guests have to write them down and the host selects them at random, but that opens the panel up to scrutiny that an awkward question has been swerved.
|
|
|
|
|
lew chaterleys lover |
November 25, 2023, 9:23am |
|
Vodka Drinker
Posts: 5,019
Posts Per Day: 1.07
Reputation: 75.9%
Rep Score: +30 / -10
Approval: +10,759
Gold Stars: 237
|
The reason people like myself keep having to bring up Fenty is that some âfansâ have forgotten what he tried to do to our club.
In a similar vein, there were revisionist posts last week suggesting Holloway wasnât here solely for nefarious reasons.
The two of them tried to sell our club to a convicted fraudster. God knows what state the club would be in now without the leak.
So no, we are not âpretty much back where we came inâ.
Nobody sensible on here, including JS and AP, has ever suggested that the two of them were going to come in and sort out all the problems overnight. It could take years to get back to being a stable, upper L1 (or better) club. They might succeed. They might not. I donât know and neither do they.
Just because JS and AP have had some success in business, it doesnât mean this long-term project is going to be easy or successful.
I never doubted Fenty when he said it was a difficult, lonely job running a lower league football club. JS and AP are proving itâs not easy. However, Iâve seen nothing from them yet that would suggest they will try to destroy our club, in the same way as Fenty tried to do.
JS and AP should be challenged, they should be questioned. They shouldnât be viewed as saints. But the club is in a better state than it was when they joined. Itâs a pretty low bar, but I am genuinely worried for anyone who thinks that isnât so.
We will never forget Fenty, I certainly won't. However that is done, and it is today's reality we should concentrate on.
|
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|
123614 |
November 25, 2023, 9:26am |
|
Guest User |
found it quite dispiriting tbh. reality starts to bite would be my summing up. there is no overnight transformation either on or off the pitch. No outside investment, n it seems the FA cup windfall has ,at best, managed to keep us up with the rest. It's going to be a long haul my balloon of 1878 optimism has been spiked, I'm afraid to say! however, I have to say , i would rather them than anyone else in charge of the club
None of which can be blamed on JS and AP.
|
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|
Theimperialcoroner |
November 25, 2023, 9:27am |
|
Moderator
Posts: 6,322
Posts Per Day: 1.05
Reputation: 90.27%
Rep Score: +47 / -4
Location: Little hale
Approval: +5,276
Gold Stars: 102
|
Who are you, Stockwood's mum? It was clearly a pointed dig at JT which was reflected in the audience reaction. I thought we'd moved past having a pop at RH journalists at these events.
Stop trying to make fetch happen.
|
| Batch, Crombie, Moore K, Wiggington, Cumming, Waters, Bonnyman, Ford, Emson, Drinkell, Whymark. Love you all, You are the reason I'm on here. You've had help from Todd, Handyside, Futcher P, Groves, Mendonca, Macca etc etc etc. Up The Mariners!!!!!!!!! |
|
|
|
|
123614 |
November 25, 2023, 9:28am |
|
Guest User |
Where would we be now if we had not got the FA Cup.money? If there is no money left where would the 350K for the main stand come from? We are in a pretty poor state on and off the field. What we really need is outside investment but that would be difficult. Maybe its time for us supporters to take the pressure off with another fund raiser for the club and raise some funds for the January window...
100% agree, and willing to donate.
|
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|
123614 |
November 25, 2023, 9:36am |
|
Guest User |
Struggling to comprehend some comments here tonight, iâve read that Jason had a pop at JT. Weâre skint and pretty much copulated and weâre going absolutely nowhere. Maybe some of you are hearing what you want to hear? if you think Jason was having a pop at JT then you are far too easily offended.. quite clearly tongue in cheek. They said weâll lose close to a million pound this year, yet also said the playing budget this year will not be cut and we at least match this years even without a cup run etc. These are two custodians of our football club, who arenât stacked with cash and have been honest from day dot. They said theyâll put money into the football club for it to be a self sustainable club and that weâll always operate within our means. Theyâve not promised stadiums or training grounds. Theyâve improved what we have, we are an attractive football club to be a part of due to them. We have an infrastructure of staff, we have training facilities that arenât in the 2000âs anymore and theyâre committed to improving the experience at BP despite it being money down the drain. They know itâs not ideal, they arenât stupid but no L2 football club has 60 million to spend on a stadium. Tottenham Hotspur are still paying thereâs off, itâs taken Everton 15 years to move out of Goodison and will be paying it off for a very long time, look at the financial issues itâs caused them. I donât blame him for coming off social media, because me myself get bored of reading some of the comments never mind if they was directed at me. ATAW
It's good to see some people appreciate what our owners are trying to do instead of finding trivial matters to moan about.
|
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|