the Big Match thread

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

I still think the ‘two up front’ thing is a bit of a red herring. They’ll be posters who see today’s team sheet and immediately melodrama that it’s not worth watching the match just because Rose is the sole striker (assuming Wilson isn’t fit). Especially as our current problems aren’t offensive.

Playing two strikers isn’t necessarily more attacking than playing one.

A formation is a formation.

The most attacking managers in the world in recent years are either Bielsa himself or those inspired by Bielsa. The formation of a Bielsa style team is similar to that we are likely to be playing today and next week against Stockport. One up front, 5 in midfield, with one deep pivot.

It’s not about the formation, it’s what the players do on the pitch. I would hope and expect that the same formation we use today will be more attacking than the same one used away at Stockport.

I think that raises some problems though.

Bielsa is fanatical about the way his teams play. Like Buckley was adamant about his pass and move style. Players brought in by that type of manager instill in their players that way of playing till they can do it in their sleep, and recruit players to play that way.

The result is a well oiled, not necessarily a winning, machine coached to the nth degree to play a certain way.

We might be set up in a modern formation but that is where the comparison ends.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Players brought in by that type of manager instill in their players that way of playing till they can do it in their sleep, and recruit players to play that way.

The result is a well oiled, not necessarily a winning, machine coached to the nth degree to play a certain way.

We might be set up in a modern formation but that is where the comparison ends.

I agree with that.

Although Bielsa transformed existing players most of the time. Other than Bamford, the early period of success for Bielsa with Leeds was done by existing players changing the way they played, rather than via transfers. Obviously, it’s easier to re-boot the footballing brains of young and youth team players, so that’s what happened.

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

I still think the ‘two up front’ thing is a bit of a red herring. They’ll be posters who see today’s team sheet and immediately melodrama that it’s not worth watching the match just because Rose is the sole striker (assuming Wilson isn’t fit). Especially as our current problems aren’t offensive.

Playing two strikers isn’t necessarily more attacking than playing one.

A formation is a formation.

The most attacking managers in the world in recent years are either Bielsa himself or those inspired by Bielsa. The formation of a Bielsa style team is similar to that we are likely to be playing today and next week against Stockport. One up front, 5 in midfield, with one deep pivot.

It’s not about the formation, it’s what the players do on the pitch. I would hope and expect that the same formation we use today will be more attacking than the same one used away at Stockport.

If two up front isn't to your liking, who is our main man up front? And how do we serve him so that he can stroke the ball into the net? Who is our man who glides past the opposition with his magic boots and sticks one in? It's gone quiet. Who is the guy who passes the ball so it lands on a sixpence? Again quiet.  With our wayward passing, I was hoping that when we aim for one, it might get to the other instead of the opposition defence as is normal. We have the players that we have, no good in wishing.

Quoted from GrimPol

If two up front isn't to your liking, who is our main man up front? Rose And how do we serve him so that he can stroke the ball into the net? The way we have 4 or 5 times already this season Who is our man who glides past the opposition with his magic boots and sticks one in? Eisa It's gone quiet That’ll be the Main Stand Who is the guy who passes the ball so it lands on a sixpence?  Not sure but it doesn’t necessarily have to be quite as accurate as that

In my years of watching football two up front gives you more than it doesn't.Firstly if they both work hard ala Rose the defenders can't rest secondly  when one of the two wins the ball his mate is nearby to benefit.Most important when a wide man puts a cross in you have two strikers attacking it. The best strikers always worked best in pairs even recently Bogle/Amond .Hope PH gets us on a winning streak and in doing so, the team play more attractive football .Hopefully we don't need wholesale charges in January just a goalscorer and LB.

If two up front isn't to your liking, who is our main man up front? Rose And how do we serve him so that he can stroke the ball into the net? The way we have 4 or 5 times already this season Who is our man who glides past the opposition with his magic boots and sticks one in? Eisa It's gone quiet That’ll be the Main Stand Who is the guy who passes the ball so it lands on a sixpence?  Not sure but it doesn’t necessarily have to be quite as accurate as that

If only Rose could stand up when touched, eh?  The only reason he's not booked for diving is that the refs feel sorry for our embarrassment. Either Rose stops diving or he goes to the Luis Suarez School of Diving and does it properly.

Rose is not good enough to play as a loner, there has to be two, so it confuses the opposition.
And yes a pass on a sixpence is required whilst our players have chamfered boots and either pass to the opposition or just kick it off the pitch.
I'm starting to think that the Fans Shop is selling special glasses that when you wear them Mariners become Barcelona. Obviously PH and you wear them. If it wasn't for the score at the end of the match to bring you back to reality, I'd buy and wear a pair as well.

Quoted from 1mickylyons

In my years of watching football two up front gives you more than it doesn't.Firstly if they both work hard ala Rose the defenders can't rest secondly  when one of the two wins the ball his mate is nearby to benefit.Most important when a wide man puts a cross in you have two strikers attacking it. The best strikers always worked best in pairs even recently Bogle/Amond .Hope PH gets us on a winning streak and in doing so, the team play more attractive football .Hopefully we don't need wholesale charges in January just a goalscorer and LB.

Quite right.

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