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A&E waits were very bad before Covid. Now they are even worse. And will continue to get worse if cases keep rising as they are. Ultimately, I think you're just being a bit blase about the ongoing problems caused by the pandemic.
The vaccination programme has done the job of saving lots and lots of lives, but there is still the risk of things getting bad enough that the NHS falls over this winter. Let's not forget that the NHS staff have been under immense pressure for the last 18 months. A bad winter could end up being more than they can deal with. Still, at least they've got a tax rise coming up to look forward to. That'll cheer them up.
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| aldi_01 |
| September 9, 2021, 5:55am |
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A&E waits were very bad before Covid. Now they are even worse. And will continue to get worse if cases keep rising as they are. Ultimately, I think you're just being a bit blase about the ongoing problems caused by the pandemic.
The vaccination programme has done the job of saving lots and lots of lives, but there is still the risk of things getting bad enough that the NHS falls over this winter. Let's not forget that the NHS staff have been under immense pressure for the last 18 months. A bad winter could end up being more than they can deal with. Still, at least they've got a tax rise coming up to look forward to. That'll cheer them up.
Blasé or just fed up? Blasé or just recognising that there are other things happening which are actually having a bigger impact on lives than Covid? We go through this on the news every autumn, that hospitals will be rammed full of folk with flu, how will the NHS cope and so on…perhaps the 350m a week Boris and his isolationist, moronic chums said it would get May be a start… All about perceptions too I guess, spent a significant amount of time in hospital not that long ago, not for me but for my new born, not a local hospital; the news in the area of the hospital was suggesting they were stacked out and at breaking point…the amazing nurses on the other hand said it was no different to any other time… It’s just become an obsession in some respects, someone at work sneezed and said they had a ropey throat yesterday…people couldn’t move away fast enough…the effects of a Benadryl kick in and surprise surprise, it was just hay fever… It can’t be helpful to folk living in this state of paranoia…I watched a bloke cough in Tesco, nothing more, simple cough, a woman who would fall in to the least likely to be affected category literally turned her trolley the other way in fear…it’s flipping bizarre… Meanwhile, people are gonna get copulated over again by another Tory lie and failed manifesto pledge with a tax/NI hike but everyone’s worried about Covid…classic Tory, sneak that through and whilst the public are shutting themselves Becauee of the fear and hysteria created… Our racist, moronic education Secretary will no doubt get away Scott free too, just like Raab, Hancock, Johnson, Patel, Cummings and so forth…what a life saver Covid has been to these fucktards… |
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Blasé or just fed up? Blasé or just recognising that there are other things happening which are actually having a bigger impact on lives than Covid?
We go through this on the news every autumn, that hospitals will be rammed full of folk with flu, how will the NHS cope and so on…perhaps the 350m a week Boris and his isolationist, moronic chums said it would get May be a start…
All about perceptions too I guess, spent a significant amount of time in hospital not that long ago, not for me but for my new born, not a local hospital; the news in the area of the hospital was suggesting they were stacked out and at breaking point…the amazing nurses on the other hand said it was no different to any other time…
It’s just become an obsession in some respects, someone at work sneezed and said they had a ropey throat yesterday…people couldn’t move away fast enough…the effects of a Benadryl kick in and surprise surprise, it was just hay fever…
It can’t be helpful to folk living in this state of paranoia…I watched a bloke cough in Tesco, nothing more, simple cough, a woman who would fall in to the least likely to be affected category literally turned her trolley the other way in fear…it’s flipping bizarre…
Meanwhile, people are gonna get copulated over again by another Tory lie and failed manifesto pledge with a tax/NI hike but everyone’s worried about Covid…classic Tory, sneak that through and whilst the public are shutting themselves Becauee of the fear and hysteria created…
Our racist, moronic education Secretary will no doubt get away Scott free too, just like Raab, Hancock, Johnson, Patel, Cummings and so forth…what a life saver Covid has been to these fucktards…
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| Humbercod |
| September 11, 2021, 8:54am |
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Blasé or just fed up? Blasé or just recognising that there are other things happening which are actually having a bigger impact on lives than Covid?
We go through this on the news every autumn, that hospitals will be rammed full of folk with flu, how will the NHS cope and so on…perhaps the 350m a week Boris and his isolationist, moronic chums said it would get May be a start…
All about perceptions too I guess, spent a significant amount of time in hospital not that long ago, not for me but for my new born, not a local hospital; the news in the area of the hospital was suggesting they were stacked out and at breaking point…the amazing nurses on the other hand said it was no different to any other time…
It’s just become an obsession in some respects, someone at work sneezed and said they had a ropey throat yesterday…people couldn’t move away fast enough…the effects of a Benadryl kick in and surprise surprise, it was just hay fever…
It can’t be helpful to folk living in this state of paranoia…I watched a bloke cough in Tesco, nothing more, simple cough, a woman who would fall in to the least likely to be affected category literally turned her trolley the other way in fear…it’s flipping bizarre…
Meanwhile, people are gonna get copulated over again by another Tory lie and failed manifesto pledge with a tax/NI hike but everyone’s worried about Covid…classic Tory, sneak that through and whilst the public are shutting themselves Becauee of the fear and hysteria created…
Our racist, moronic education Secretary will no doubt get away Scott free too, just like Raab, Hancock, Johnson, Patel, Cummings and so forth…what a life saver Covid has been to these fucktards…
Agree with most of this bet get over yourself with the racist crap! Moronic yes👍 |
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Vaccine passports scrapped.
Add to the list of u turns.
In this case a good decision.
U turned again today, no surprise
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Hmmm. Well, the right-wing press in the UK has been printing misleading and inaccurate editorials and opinion pieces for some time without correcting them, so perhaps understandable that the Guardian has done the same. Make a complaint and they'd possibly update the article. Wouldn't be likely the article would be updated for any other reason, as it's old news now and the journalist who wrote it will have moved on. Anyway, a worrying turn in today's numbers: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/The 7 day average for cases is up 14% (which is expected given the return to schooling a week ago and the expected increase in cases in children), but the 7 day average for deaths is now up 40% over the past week. We're now at a level equivalent to 50,000 deaths a year. Most of those who have died will have been infected around mid-August when rates were still declining so hopefully the number will drop and then not begin to rise to the same levels again as cases increase with the return to school. Not particularly confident about this, however. The fact that unnamed government/SAGE sources have been floating the idea about a potential October firebreak lockdown in the media indicates they aren't too confident about what is coming at present. At what level do they decide restrictions will need to be brought in? 400 deaths a day, 500? The sensible thing to do would be to reintroduce masking right now to reduce the risk of a lockdown being required, but the optics don't work well with the narrative they've been pushing for so long. They U-turned so many times during the course of the pandemic, it was pretty ridiculous, but they are studiously trying to avoid it after claiming the vaccination programme has solved all problems. On another note, the fact that we've managed to fully vaccinate so many aged 16+ so quickly is a really good achievement. Just a pity that we've not vaccinated those aged 12 and above like most of our peers. No coincidence that the countries who have done so have a fraction of the number of cases that we do at present. The US the obvious outlier in this due to their politically-motivated idiocy which means they've got many tens of millions of vulnerable people believing the anti-vaxx, Covid-denialist bullshite and therefore dying in large numbers.
What are your thoughts on the report below? : https://www.hartgroup.org/recent-deaths-in-young-people-in-england-and-wales/The period also coincides with the rollout of vaccination. Finally, ONS have reported on a striking rise in age adjusted mortality rates in those with only one dose that accelerated in May 2021 to levels far exceeding those in the unvaccinated. |
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Heard a report but not sure if it was cases/deaths or both but we are higher now than the last 3 months on last year😳
Don’t forget to get your boosters so we can get back to normality 😬
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Well yeah, because we’ve just had six months with no restrictions at all. As opposed to still having lots of restrictions in place and a lockdown last November. The deaths are significantly lower than the start of the year and that’s without social distancing, the cases are also no higher than then either. The vaccines aren’t going to be a cure on their own, that much is obvious. But there’s plenty of evidence that they have lessened the amount of deaths and hospitalisations. And of course, there are sadly some who have had bad reactions but they are few fewer in number than those with long covid or who died.
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Surely we have to take the numbers with a pinch of salt too…
Aren’t they now counting any deaths of someone who’s tested positive in the last 28 days in the death numbers?
Test positive on Monday, get run over on Thursday, Covid death…
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Well yeah, because we’ve just had six months with no restrictions at all. As opposed to still having lots of restrictions in place and a lockdown last November. The deaths are significantly lower than the start of the year and that’s without social distancing, the cases are also no higher than then either. The vaccines aren’t going to be a cure on their own, that much is obvious. But there’s plenty of evidence that they have lessened the amount of deaths and hospitalisations. And of course, there are sadly some who have had bad reactions but they are few fewer in number than those with long covid or who died.
Im talking specifically July to mid sept this year than last year. Most adults were double jabbed by July. Why would deaths be worse than last year? |
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