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More scaremongering form the government. https://www.gbnews.uk/news/cov.....ave-christmas/154793Hold on though: Gilbert told the Daily Telegraph that elderly people and those with weakened immune systems should be in line for a third jab, but “I don’t think we need to boost everybody”. “As the virus spreads between people, it mutates and adapts and evolves, like the Delta variant,” she said. “With these outbreaks, we want to stop that as quickly as possible. We will look at each situation; the immunocompromised and elderly will receive boosters. But I don’t think we need to boost everybody. Immunity is lasting well in the majority of people"And: There should be no need for more Covid lockdowns because the health service must learn to "live with" the virus, the head of NHS Providers has said. Chris Hopson, whose organisation negotiates with the Department of Health on behalf of NHS trusts, said the pandemic would soon be considered only "endemic" – but he warned that hospital bed occupancy was already at peak winter levels. In an interview with Times Radio, Mr Hopson said: "I think all of us in the NHS recognise that we are now moving from a situation of a pandemic towards an endemic where we need to live with Covid. "Everybody in the NHS absolutely recognises that it's our job to cope as best we can with Covid pressures, without resorting to the very draconian lockdowns that we've had to go through before."
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Covid rates and death’s keep falling with no mask mandates or lockdown measures, kids back at school what is this witchcraft? *Disclaimer* does not include mask wearing passport carrying smScotland!
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Covid rates and death’s keep falling with no mask mandates or lockdown measures, kids back at school what is this witchcraft?
The large vaccine uptake.
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Got my booster jab booked for a week on Saturday.
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The large vaccine uptake.
But we have been told on this forum many times from the Neil Ferguson fan club that ending mandates and masks would be carnage. Win/Win eh?
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Deaths still trending upwards following the high rates of infection before half term cut transmission right down (oh, and the Immensa lab sending out false negatives was shut down). Deaths should hopefully start to fall soon, especially as the booster programme begins to take effect. Unfortunately, we're not giving the boosters fast enough still, though they are now managing to keep up with those becoming eligible as time goes on. We've still got 6 million people eligible who haven't had their boosters yet and it's vital that we get this number down as quickly as possible whilst still vaccinating those who are becoming eligible.
Bear in mind that the data from Israel indicates that the boosters cuts risk of infection by 95% - in comparison to those already double-jabbed. That is a big drop in risk. If we can get most of the 50+ age group 'boosted', it would go a long way to cutting right down on the deaths. Of course, there will still be plenty of people unvaccinated so we'll see a reasonable number of deaths and a lot of cases in children with the corresponding long-term illness in younger groups.
I'm not sure how much the new treatments Merck and Pfizer be able to stop serious illness and deaths. The data from the trials is excellent, but it's all a matter of getting enough doses of them in the first place then diagnosing Covid and prescribing the treatment in time for the drugs to take effect. Still they should hopefully save the lives of a number of people too foolish to be vaccinated. Perhaps more important is if they can keep people out of hospitals.
Ultimately, the question still remains whether or not it will be enough to stop the collapse of the NHS this winter. Let's hope for a relatively mild winter and a good year for influenza (by good, I mean not too many infections and a more effective vaccine than is often the case). Sounds as though the hospitals and ambulance services are at breaking point already and it hasn't got cold yet.
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But we have been told on this forum many times from the Neil Ferguson fan club that ending mandates and masks would be carnage. Win/Win eh?
Neil Ferguson Fan Club?! Grow up son.
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Got my booster jab booked for a week on Saturday.
The wife's had hers, I have mine on Monday.
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