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Quoted from Civvy at last

On more than 1 occasion we have played a sh1te team and then said ‘they dragged us down to their level ‘.  If Labour were strong and reasonably supported they would have every right to tare into this government.  But they are neither, so  Borris can pretty much handle this how he likes. Safe in the knowledge that Labour are no threat. That’s what Labour have to do with it.
And trying to get behind a government in a national crisis isn’t such a bad thing in my book. Of course they should be questioned. But your constant negativity is becoming quite boring with clearly a political agenda.
Tell me you voted Tory in the last election and I will gladly apologise.

Dragged down to someone’s level is the poorest excuse for failure you could possibly give, Are you admitting that they are doing rather poorly? I didn’t vote Tory, I have never voted Tory and never will because I value the NHS and because they will never change. They will look after their own and their donors first.  You seem obsessed with Labour, they are the opposition and have been the last ten years and will be for at least te next five
This has nothing to do with with pointing out how poor they are, this should be a non political crisis, what Diane Abbot would do is racist nonsense that I have come to expect from you, Ask how good Johnson or Hancock are at Maths with their counting of tests because it is much more relevant, get behind Boris and cheer away, you seem quite happy with the mediocrity we have leading us. I will get behind the Government when it steps up and gets ahead of the  game, you think I want them to fail? You think I want people to die? You think we don’t want our business open as soon as possible? The exact opposite is true, even the Daily Mail are exasperated by some of the stuf that’s been happening. Civvy at last? You still love to be ordered what to think at every turn

Quoted from Civvy at last

On more than 1 occasion we have played a sh1te team and then said ‘they dragged us down to their level ‘.  If Labour were strong and reasonably supported they would have every right to tare into this government.  But they are neither, so  Borris can pretty much handle this how he likes. Safe in the knowledge that Labour are no threat. That’s what Labour have to do with it.
And trying to get behind a government in a national crisis isn’t such a bad thing in my book. Of course they should be questioned. But your constant negativity is becoming quite boring with clearly a political agenda.
Tell me you voted Tory in the last election and I will gladly apologise.

It's poster's like yourself who voted Tory that are the ones banging on about other poster's having a political agenda when they criticise the government. Yeah, i have a political agenda. I hate the Tories, always have and always will, as they are full of divisive, self serving, lying ar$eholes.

However, i am fully willing to accept that things could have been just the same under a government of any stripe during this crisis, had they dithered and dallied in the same way that Boris and Co have done. Had Labour been in charge and made the same decisions, i would be just as critical of them. But the thing is, they are not in charge, the Tories are, so they are the ones receiving the flak, and rightly so in my opinion.

Political or not, they have been reactive rather than pro-active, have spent the last ten years cutting every front line service they can, telling us to tighten our belts for the good of the country, while millionaires have become billionaires. Boris manipulated and lied his way into office, and much like Theresa May inherited the whole Brexit sh1tstorm created by her scheming predecessors, Boris has inherited this sh1tstorm and been found sorely wanting. Blaming Labour for not being a strong enough opposition is hilarious.

It's not all bad though. I think Rishak Sunak has been quite impressive for a Tory.

Yeah i know, i'm a bitter commie.  

People that criticise Diane Abbott's intelligence in a footy forum make me laugh. I'm guessing most of them don't have a degree from Cambridge University as she does. She's plenty intelligent enough and having a bad day at work (she claims it was in part due to symptoms of undiagnosed diabetes) doesn't change that.

In other news, in Gove's briefing yesterday, he blamed the shortfall in testing in the lack of reagents available. The Chemical Industry Association has pointed out that this isn't true and the government hasn't even enquired about reagents! That's another lie in the daily Covid-19 briefings from a senior government minister.



If you aren't concerned about this, what do you actually get concerned about? It certainly worries me.

Quoted from codcheeky

Dragged down to someone’s level is the poorest excuse for failure you could possibly give, Are you admitting that they are doing rather poorly? I didn’t vote Tory, I have never voted Tory and never will because I value the NHS and because they will never change. They will look after their own and their donors first.  You seem obsessed with Labour, they are the opposition and have been the last ten years and will be for at least te next five
This has nothing to do with with pointing out how poor they are, this should be a non political crisis, what Diane Abbot would do is racist nonsense that I have come to expect from you, Ask how good Johnson or Hancock are at Maths with their counting of tests because it is much more relevant, get behind Boris and cheer away, you seem quite happy with the mediocrity we have leading us. I will get behind the Government when it steps up and gets ahead of the  game, you think I want them to fail? You think I want people to die? You think we don’t want our business open as soon as possible? The exact opposite is true, even the Daily Mail are exasperated by some of the stuf that’s been happening. Civvy at last? You still love to be ordered what to think at every turn

I'll take the political posturing and if I get abuse that's fine.  I'm dishing it out so I'll take it.  But I would like an apology for the remark in bold.  I have never displayed any signs of racism and never will (that's due to the fact I'm not a racist).  Are you saying that I can't have a dig at anyone of colour even if they've had a car crash interview that has absolutely lined them up for it ?  Because that is total and utter b0llox. It does, however,  seem to be the default setting when defending her.  Mostly by the same people that refer to Borris's weight or his hairstyle.  Still he's a white male so that's ok !!!!!!
Certainly one of us is showing their true colours though !!

Quoted from Maringer

In other news, in Gove's briefing yesterday, he blamed the shortfall in testing in the lack of reagents available. The Chemical Industry Association has pointed out that this isn't true and the government hasn't even enquired about reagents! That's another lie in the daily Covid-19 briefings from a senior government minister.

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If you aren't concerned about this, what do you actually get concerned about? It certainly worries me.

My (massively) better half was calling BS on this as Gove was saying it yesterday. She knows as she works in chemical regulation but as Gove famously said the people of Britain have had enough of experts.

Quoted from ginnywings

It's poster's like yourself who voted Tory that are the ones banging on about other poster's having a political agenda when they criticise the government. Yeah, i have a political agenda. I hate the Tories, always have and always will, as they are full of divisive, self serving, lying ar$eholes.

However, i am fully willing to accept that things could have been just the same under a government of any stripe during this crisis, had they dithered and dallied in the same way that Boris and Co have done. Had Labour been in charge and made the same decisions, i would be just as critical of them. But the thing is, they are not in charge, the Tories are, so they are the ones receiving the flak, and rightly so in my opinion.

Political or not, they have been reactive rather than pro-active, have spent the last ten years cutting every front line service they can, telling us to tighten our belts for the good of the country, while millionaires have become billionaires. Boris manipulated and lied his way into office, and much like Theresa May inherited the whole Brexit sh1tstorm created by her scheming predecessors, Boris has inherited this sh1tstorm and been found sorely wanting. Blaming Labour for not being a strong enough opposition is hilarious.

It's not all bad though. I think Rishak Sunak has been quite impressive for a Tory.

Yeah i know, i'm a bitter commie.  

Well quite clearly.  J Edgar Hoover was right about you all along  

I don't mind anyone critisising the government.  But it's the same old thing time and time again.  Nobody knows how Labour would have done. At least you admit you have a political agenda.  That's fine.
Most of what you say is true.  I personally generally prefer Tory to the alternative, but that's the beauty of democracy.  Just because I don't launch into the government doesn't mean I fully back them. Under Labour  I went to a war I didn't agree with and played a part in the deaths of thousands.  I still gave it my full support because A) that was my job, and B) because I wasn't fully aware of the bigger picture.  For me, I try to support the government as much as I can in this time of crisis as I would if it was Labour.  After this is over, then we can have a post mortem.  I suspect though, it will turn into a  'JF saved us/we should have gone into admin '  type argument.   The staunch Tories will claim Labour could not have done any better, whilst staunch labour will critisise everything that didn't go to plan. But there will never be any real proof of either argument.  

I guess one thing that surely even us Right Wing,Nazi loving, homophobic racists and you leftie snowflakes can agree on.  Michael Gove is an utter utter  C * * T

Mind how you go now,  

I don’t really think it matters who is in political power at this moment they would still be taking advice and strategies from the same scientists, medical “ experts” etc. I say “experts” because if we go back to the 2008 financial crash no “experts” predicted it but were soon telling the government of the day what needed to be done, and that was basically screw the population just make sure the banks are ok.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Well quite clearly.  J Edgar Hoover was right about you all along  

I don't mind anyone critisising the government.  But it's the same old thing time and time again.  Nobody knows how Labour would have done. At least you admit you have a political agenda.  That's fine.
Most of what you say is true.  I personally generally prefer Tory to the alternative, but that's the beauty of democracy.  Just because I don't launch into the government doesn't mean I fully back them. Under Labour  I went to a war I didn't agree with and played a part in the deaths of thousands.  I still gave it my full support because A) that was my job, and B) because I wasn't fully aware of the bigger picture.  For me, I try to support the government as much as I can in this time of crisis as I would if it was Labour.  After this is over, then we can have a post mortem.  I suspect though, it will turn into a  'JF saved us/we should have gone into admin '  type argument.   The staunch Tories will claim Labour could not have done any better, whilst staunch labour will critisise everything that didn't go to plan. But there will never be any real proof of either argument.  

I guess one thing that surely even us Right Wing,Nazi loving, homophobic racists and you leftie snowflakes can agree on.  Michael Gove is an utter utter girl private.  

Mind how you go now,  

But you are telling us to accept all this Bullshut, your saying cheer along, you want to bring up Diane Abbott for no other reason than she is a hate figure with absolutely no relevance to Covid 19 or the Government and if you think it’s just a coincidence that she is Black believe it if you like, If you are not racist you are obsessed with her and a comment she made 3 years ago to an unhealthy degree.
We have people on here defending social distancing, these same people were quite happy to support the opposite last month before the policy changed 180 degrees. I marched against the war in Iraq, we lost it has solved nothing, in fact it has made things much worse, the same in Syria and Libya, I wouldn’t vote for Blair after Iraq or vote New Labour
Your argument that no one should say anything till this is over is ludicrous, we are not a dictatorship, whoever is in power should be questioned at every turn especially when many many lives depend on every decision , NHS Staff told not to speak out about lack of PPE, absolute chaos lies and deception over testing, numbers shuffled to change the picture, you can cheer on failure and ineptitude if you want, but give it a rest about what anyone else might have done because it is less than irrelevant

This sums it up for me..

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/0.....logically-oppose-it/

From the beloved Tory Mail

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne.....emical-shortage.html