Coronavirus

Quoted from Gaffer58

Does anybody actually believe China’s death rate, think they are claiming just over 3000, methinks a little bit of fiddling the figures.

You have to take whatever comes out of China and Russia with a pinch of salt.

I don't believe much that comes out of Trump,s mouth either.

569 deaths between 0900 and 1700 yesterday. Is that right? Seems like a hell of a jump from the 24hr period announced yesterday.

Quoted from LH

569 deaths between 0900 and 1700 yesterday. Is that right? Seems like a hell of a jump from the 24hr period announced yesterday.

On the Worldometer site, we are only showing 135 recovered which hasn't changed for days. Think it's worth remembering that the current rate of infections and deaths will be, in the main, people who caught the virus before the lockdown. Also worth noting that, unless you're Boris or the heir to the throne, you aren't being tested if you've got mild symptoms.

As I type this, Worldometer is showing 962,000 cases across the world with 203,000 recovered and 675,000 mild symptoms. Of the remaining number 49,000 deaths and 36,000 serious cases. Different countries are reporting different stats but both Italy and Spain are reporting reduced new cases and I'm pretty sure that, even though we are two weeks behind, our government will come under pressure to relax restrictions when our figures improve.

Quoted from LH

569 deaths between 0900 and 1700 yesterday. Is that right? Seems like a hell of a jump from the 24hr period announced yesterday.

It’s a jump of 6

I tbink, when it is all over, that we'll probably discover that a heck of a lot of people have had the disease without realising it or suffering much in the way of symptoms. It's likely that 60% or more of cases wouldn't be severe enough for people to go and see a doctor (if we didn't know anything about the disease being around in the first place). Therefore, it isn't likely to be anything like 20% of cases requiring hospital treatment.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00822-x

That doesn't mean that a heck of a lot of people aren't going to die from the disease, however. South Korea have carried out widespread testing (not just those in contact with the ill/infected) and their figures are showing around 1% fatality rate last I checked for confirmed infections. That's ten times higher than a typical flu bug.

One thing I'm not sure about is how SK are testing. Assuming it is the PCR tests then I don't think it would show up if somebody had unknowingly had the virus but then recovered. The antibody tests, if reliable, will show how widespread infection actually has been.

The problem with these blood sharp object tests is accuracy. Apparently, Spain (and maybe France?) returned hundreds of thousands of these tests to one Chinese company as accuracy was only about 30% which made them pretty much worthless. It is why it is important that the accuracy of these tests is checked over here before they are shipped out to the public.

Quoted from rancido

The UK is currently in possession of 1,000,000 test kits from China with the same amount due any day. But Public Health England won't release them for use until it assesses if they are suitable even though they have been in possession of these for 2 weeks! In fact it appears that PHE are behind most of the delays in the implementation of testing.

I may be wrong, but aren't they the antibody kits to test if you have had coronavirus rather than the ones to test if you have it? I was under the impression that they are unsure as to whether the antibody kits actually work or not. Granted they will be pretty huge if they do. Are they even sure that you can't get it again if you have already had it?

Either way they should have tested way more NHS staff than 2,000.

Philippines president said he wants to shoot anybody who doesn't obey the lockdown. I think that's going a bit too far but I would definitely birch the basteds

Quoted from supertown

It’s a jump of 6

A jump of 6 on the figure released yesterday for the period between 0900 on Tues and 0900 on Weds.

The figure I saw on Sky was 596 for the period between 0900 and 1700 on Wednesday which is only 8 hours!

From what I've read, once you've had it, there is immunity, though nobody knows how long it lasts. Probably a number of years as opposed to a number of weeks or months. The cases where they thought a handful of people had caught it again were either due to a difference in the way they were retested or they simply weren't fully clear of the virus in the first place.

Quoted from Maringer

From what I've read, once you've had it, there is immunity, though nobody knows how long it lasts. Probably a number of years as opposed to a number of weeks or months. The cases where they thought a handful of people had caught it again were either due to a difference in the way they were retested or they simply weren't fully clear of the virus in the first place.

Professor guy stated he hoped that immunity would follow but little data yet.no guarantee.