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KingstonMariner
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That is exactly the sort of comment I mean. The distraction technique. “This is wrong so it must be OK for others to do wrong.”

I feel for the families who hitched their lives to jobs in hospitality and retail for example and find themselves with empty savings after 2 lockdowns, unable to pay a mortgage and having to negotiate bills with power companies etc. Those are people who genuinely need help. The ones who cheat the system cheat them and cheat those who give out of goodness.



The point Ginny is making is that the scams of the rich lose us taxpayers more money than the scams of the poor. He’s not giving it as an excuse.


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The point Ginny is making is that the scams of the rich lose us taxpayers more money than the scams of the poor. He’s not giving it as an excuse.


Exactly, and also that they don't seem to incur the same wrath and vitriol as the "spongers", even though they are milking the country for way more billions. Some view them as canny people just playing the system to make vast wads of cash.
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By adding that tenants are being given notice to quit you made the fact that homeowners are selling their properties sound like a criticism



Just because you have had to sell a few of your houses lately.


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Probably of more significance to investors selling rental properties Pete, is the change in tax rules a couple of years back which curtailed the tax benefits to small scale property investors. At the same time the new rules benefitted property investment schemes, so it was more bunce for the big boys and City chums.


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It's been hard for most people was what I was trying to get across.

There's always some who will make money whatever happens .

Like Virgin laying everybody off while Branson flitters away millions and millions on his space projects.


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It's been hard for most people was what I was trying to get across.

There's always some who will make money whatever happens .

Like Virgin laying everybody off while Branson flitters away millions and millions on his space projects.


For a minute I thought the reference to virgin laying was going to lead to a joke about Prince Andrew
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No that is distraction.


Distraction? You’ve just stated that people purposefully mislead professionals in order to get food bank referrals. I spent two years working in an advice centre where we referred people to food banks, so want to know how you think people have managed this? Unless of course you were just chatting complete shyte, as per, which is entirely my point. A generation of know-it-alls whose toxic worldview is poisoned by the assumption that people can and will go to extraordinary lengths just because they might be able to get something that they themselves don’t have.

These people can’t even get a box of smart price weetabix without being demonised. It’s bullying, punching down and pathetic. And the country is full to the brim with people like that.
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Excuse me my generation ?

I know nothing .


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Excuse me my generation ?

I know nothing .


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Be proud of your generation Pete. The Somme, Passchendaele, Arras



I try and forget the wars I have been in mate.


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