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Quoted from Maringer

To be fair, it's probably more the fact that this chap is a former Army captain that got his company the gig than any friendship with Hancock. On the other hand, with this government, perhaps not.

Slightly concerning that that AstraZeneca/Oxford have screwed the pooch a bit with their initial publicity of the efficacy of their vaccine. A member-up with the dosage in part of the trial which probably shows it is more effective than two full doses, but then perhaps not as it is within the error bars of the calculations. All this at the same time of a claim of the possibility of 90% efficacy but this was just in the low-dose sub group who were all under 55 years in age. Muddies this waters a bit, especially for the older and more vulnerable. The anti-vaxxers will jump on any opportunity to discredit the virus, as will the Yanks who are backing their boys despite the massively greater cost and supply constraints. Hopefully, more convincing data will emerge as this vaccine is the one most of us are likely to get. Even if the efficacy is 'only' around 70%, that should be good enough to shut down the pandemic to a large degree, especially if it also reduces the chance of severe illness by as much or more.

Definitely nothing to do with knowing him.

At the time Bourne’s company, Hinpack, was producing plastic cups and takeaway boxes for the catering industry.

Weak aspiss. 80 seat majority and he can’t even hold the line.

https://www.independent.co.uk/.....ps-b1763339.html?amp

Tories.....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-55133081

I saw that last night ginny, it showed people (adults) fighting over food, it was horrible to watch, it showed grown men in tears, this government should be ashamed of themselves mate.

Quoted from cmackenzie4

I saw that last night ginny, it showed people (adults) fighting over food, it was horrible to watch, it showed grown men in tears, this government should be ashamed of themselves mate.

Agree Chris it's 2020 and people are starving it's all wrong mate.

One wonders how much 'the bills swallow up the money' goes on mobile phones, Sky, fags, drink, video games, internet connections and other total non-necessities

A friend works at a food bank and reports calls on mobiles from people subsequently arriving in tasty 4x4s to find out if their food parcels are ready for collection yet

Those desperately in genuine need don't have any of the above and they feed their kids rather than themselves

There will always be an ill -disciplined free for all rush for owt that's free

Quoted from Ipswin

One wonders how much 'the bills swallow up the money' goes on mobile phones, Sky, fags, drink, video games, internet connections and other total non-necessities

A friend works at a food bank and reports calls on mobiles from people subsequently arriving in tasty 4x4s to find out if their food parcels are ready for collection yet

Those desperately in genuine need don't have any of the above and they feed their kids rather than themselves

There will always be an ill -disciplined free for all rush for owt that's free

Whilst I do agree with you that the system does get abused by certain elements, there are plenty of wealthy people equally capable of shafting the taxpayer in other ways.

Just to play devil’s advocate, often the poorest members of our society are the ones who desperately need access to smartphones and broadband, as I would like to think that they are using them for job applications etc.

I don’t want to bring up my Dad’s Razzle collection again, but as a retired Luddite, it was only the loss of physical contact with family due to lockdown that forced him to get broadband, a tablet and an online subscription to Trawlermen’s Wives. Whilst he is not wealthy, he was comfortable enough not to worry about old fashioned methods being more expensive to him. He was happy in his sticky paged world with no need to hunt for online discounts etc

Everything is cheaper online and the poorer you are, the more reliant on the technology you become

The way these spongers go on, its almost as if you need a phone and internet connection to function in society these days! It’s not as if you can get a contract for £3.95 per month and a handset for a tenner or less. And why would you even need a mobile? Everyone knows you can sign up for universal credit and access support services without one. Zero-hours contract jobs are also well known for offering stable hours that never change and you never need notifying abut.

They must all be millionaires I imagine, queuing up for rice, cereal, tinned carrots and home brand pasta sauce and getting rich by saving about £20 a fortnight. Obviously they’ve somehow tricked the professional who has to refer them to a foodbank having assessed their situation.

This country has spawned a generation of spiteful, hate-filled, comfortable property owners who have enjoyed every benefit of the state - free education, plenty growing up in council housing, free healthcare, a generous welfare state - and have decided to pull up the ladder behind them. The world will be a much happier place without them.

Quoted from ska face

The way these spongers go on, its almost as if you need a phone and internet connection to function in society these days! It’s not as if you can get a contract for £3.95 per month and a handset for a tenner or less. And why would you even need a mobile? Everyone knows you can sign up for universal credit and access support services without one. Zero-hours contract jobs are also well known for offering stable hours that never change and you never need notifying abut.

They must all be millionaires I imagine, queuing up for rice, cereal, tinned carrots and home brand pasta sauce and getting rich by saving about £20 a fortnight. Obviously they’ve somehow tricked the professional who has to refer them to a foodbank having assessed their situation.

This country has spawned a generation of spiteful, hate-filled, comfortable property owners who have enjoyed every benefit of the state - free education, plenty growing up in council housing, free healthcare, a generous welfare state - and have decided to pull up the ladder behind them. The world will be a much happier place without them.

They are not millionaires queuing up for cans and tins, but you don’t have to be a genius to see that there are people abusing the charity of their peers. They are professional in their misleading of professionals. They are professional in getting other people to go for the stuff on their behalf. There are links here to C21 slavery even. That makes me sick that someone would do that when we see pensioners donating a tin they can’t afford. We must be allowed to say something about this without being accused of against poverty aid. We all know there are struggling families, we all know there are homeless teenagers, we know ..... but we cannot use that to stifle all reasoned argument about abuse of the system.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

They are professional in their misleading of professionals.

How do they manage that? Serious question - have you worked in an environment where these food bank referrals are authorised?