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Manchester Mariner
November 17, 2020, 3:54pm

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Nice work if you can get it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54974373


The glorious free market right there.

Meanwhile NHS staff have to pay to park when they go to work.


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You praised Germany to high heaven at the start yet they have had terrible problems. I was merely pointing out that it is not just the UK that have had a hard time of it.

People would not put up with the draconian measures needed to try to eradicate the virus, and the same is true of nearly all open democratic countries. Of course there are exceptions to every rule but most western countries, including now Sweden who tried a different approach have suffered badly.

Nobody is saying our government haven't made mistakes, but most governments in the western world have made mistakes.Some at the start, some later on but in open societies it is extremely difficult to control a very contagious virus with restrictions that most people would accept.


??
Please explain.
Oh wait.....

https://www.newstatesman.com/p.....ring-covid-19-crisis

Feel free to post the relevant data for Germany etc.




Obviously the normal disclaimer:

"Would have been worse under Labour,Corbyn etc etc....."



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November 17, 2020, 8:54pm
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??
Please explain.
Oh wait.....

https://www.newstatesman.com/p.....ring-covid-19-crisis

Feel free to post the relevant data for Germany etc.




Obviously the normal disclaimer:

"Would have been worse under Labour,Corbyn etc etc....."






I think you have misunderstood that sentence.
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November 17, 2020, 9:39pm

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Quoted from lew chaterleys lover


You praised Germany to high heaven at the start yet they have had terrible problems. I was merely pointing out that it is not just the UK that have had a hard time of it.

People would not put up with the draconian measures needed to try to eradicate the virus, and the same is true of nearly all open democratic countries. Of course there are exceptions to every rule but most western countries, including now Sweden who tried a different approach have suffered badly.

Nobody is saying our government haven't made mistakes, but most governments in the western world have made mistakes. Some at the start, some later on but in open societies it is extremely difficult to control a very contagious virus with restrictions that most people would accept.


Germany. 800,000 covid cases, 12,000 deaths.

UK. 1,400,000 covid cases, 52,000 deaths.

Similar size populations. Speaks for itself.
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Quoted from lew chaterleys lover


I think you have misunderstood that sentence.


Not all.
Pretty obvious that mistakes have been made across the European nations.
The government's long & ongoing list doesn't seem to be stopping however.
As of this week the main figures aren't even working in a covid secure environment.




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Germany. 800,000 covid cases, 12,000 deaths.

UK. 1,400,000 covid cases, 52,000 deaths.

Similar size populations. Speaks for itself.


Don't forget Germany is a lot bigger country than ours in sq miles so they are more social distant than us .


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54978460


We are not a two bit country so why did we need a yank to broker a deal for us ?

was there not a single person in this country who could have done it for a lot less than 21 million ?

How are we going to manage once brexit is done and dusted.


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Germany. 800,000 covid cases, 12,000 deaths.

UK. 1,400,000 covid cases, 52,000 deaths.

Similar size populations. Speaks for itself.

They probably don't count some poor sod wrapped around the wheel arch of a 44 tonner as a covid death either.
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Let's not attempt to claim that Germany has done anything like as badly as we have with the virus thus far:

https://ourworldindata.org/gra.....ute&region=World
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