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Swansea_Mariner
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Why can't we just design flats into the actual build to reduce the cost?

20m sounds a lot but it's not a secondary school costs 20-40m depending on its size. Maybe that's a possibility, incorporate a primary school within one of the stands.


The funding gap necessitates innovation so let's  be innovative
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Why can't we just design flats into the actual build to reduce the cost?

20m sounds a lot but it's not a secondary school costs 20-40m depending on its size. Maybe that's a possibility, incorporate a primary school within one of the stands.


The funding gap necessitates innovation so let's  be innovative


Those are great ideas but according to Philip Day we haven't sorted out who even owns the land. If we get that sorted there are "lots of things to sort out" prior to any planning application and then the planning process is fraught with problems.

It might be a while but at least they can explore ideas like yours if we ever get that far.
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If Philip Day or JF was reading this I would say explore the design  build options in parallel with sorting out the land issue. Litteraly it could be anything a library, a school, day care centre, indoor athlete facilities (60m track), health spa, flats, hotel etc. (Inc. Combinations of)

Project like this needs a proper 5 case model business case, with a series of long list options you could have dozens of potential different partners for a True community stadium. If the stadium is different things then the money can come from a variety of sources.

None of this would be aborted costs if Freeman street land couldn't be sorted you'd just reevaluate which options were viable for another site.
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You need 100 years at 200k to get 20 million  


That's just you being negative. If everybody starts being a bit more positive then maybe 200,000 ×10 might be 20,000,000.
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Just before the usual suspects start bealing, that article is just an example of how hard it is to access any kind of public regeneration funding, not a love letter to the EU.

Like I said a while back - expect significant opposition if you’re going to be using council funds to plonk a vanity project in the middle of one of the most deprived wards in the country.

These are issues I’d expect the portfolio holder for regeneration to have a bit more of a grasp on tbh.


Interesting and fair points Ska, just out of interest how much EU money has gone into regeneration of Grimsby from us being in the EU up to today, genuine question and not politically motivated, thank you  


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Interesting and fair points Ska, just out of interest how much EU money has gone into regeneration of Grimsby from us being in the EU up to today, genuine question and not politically motivated, thank you  


Honestly couldn’t say, although this website is worth a look (not just at NE Lincs) as it shows where some funding has gone in the recent past & how much is spent annually across broad themes - https://www.myeu.uk/

What’s clear from that map is that a lot of money is put into supporting some of the “softer” areas that support long term regeneration - skills, training, R&D, etc. - not just the bells & whistles. If Fenty really is serious about this being a transformational project for the area, it will need the support of all sectors of the local economy and won’t survive if it’s just a ground, a Burger King & a Harvester.

The govt's “shared prosperity fund”, which is supposedly being introduced to replace this funding is disappearing slowly into the ether, but as mentioned in the FT article, it’s looking like it may be harder for certain areas to access this type of money and if the “Fair Funding” proposals for ahead, NE Lincs council are going to lose an extra £2.1m a year which will be heading to Surrey and Bucks.
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Interesting and fair points Ska, just out of interest how much EU money has gone into regeneration of Grimsby from us being in the EU up to today, genuine question and not politically motivated, thank you  


The EU should build us a stadium, for destroying our fishing industry, which lead to the decline of Freemo.

Was watching the news yesterday about the EU still wants to fish our waters, as part of the deal to leave the EU. They was a interview with a dutch fisherman, fearing for his livelihood, now we are out of the EU. The EU did not give a f__k about our families livelihoods and our TOWN.
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The EU should build us a stadium, for destroying our fishing industry, which lead to the decline of Freemo.

Was watching the news yesterday about the EU still wants to fish our waters, as part of the deal to leave the EU. They was a interview with a dutch fisherman, fearing for his livelihood, now we are out of the EU. The EU did not give a f__k about our families livelihoods and our TOWN.


40 years worth of British governments were part of the EU - sat at the top table too - so everything you say of the EU abandoning the town, destroying the community and ruining an industry is 100% applicable to British governments.
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Its all moot we are not in the EU. How about we talk about funding routes that actually exist.
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