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KingstonMariner
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I've read plenty of the years and non of the scaremongering has come true


I hate to point this out but we haven’t properly left yet. We’re still operating under all the structures of the EU.

We have already seen the effects with lower rents and house prices in London and the SE due to the departure of Europeans. Good news for buyers, but those who have lost out will be less keen on subsidising the rest of the country.


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No wonder this town has become a backwater if some of the negativity voiced in the last two pages of this thread is anything to go by. It is a fact that we need a new ground for the survival of the club. The club want it, JF wants it, the Council want it and the fans (with the the exception of a few naysayer doom and gloom experts on here) want it. Forget false dawns and be hopeful and adopt a Mr Micawber attitude. The past is the past and that's where BP sadly belongs.


It’s precisely the Mr Micawber attitude that people are adopting, thinking that something will turn up’ but without any real information as to what.

Fenty hasn’t said where the money will come from. The council haven’t. The Freemen haven’t. The fans haven’t. All that we have is a lot of people agreeing that would be a nice place to build a football ground.


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Latest estimate is the country is £170 billion pounds poorer than it would’ve been if we had voted to remain. It’s total madness in that we have effectively voted to put economic sanctions on ourselves!
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Bore off
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I just find it interesting that it appears people can’t see the difference between negativity and realism.

I haven’t actually seen anyone saying a new ground is a excrement idea, unnecessary and the likes, all I’ve seen is people asking a genuine question surrounding funding and whether or not the club has an actual plan.

Austerity has been imposed on the country for too long and has had only a negative impact, local authorities are feeling the pinch, ours in particular, so the likelihood of them having anything like the funds to support this is slim, I don’t see a queue of millionaires offering to build it, the one interested party in the whole club was basically described as a tyre kicker and likely offered the ridiculous deal Fenty spoke about. We have a a couple of old blokes with zero experience of managing a project of this size, and last week we were informed that there’s confusion about ownership of the land.

So whilst people can make implies comments about people of Grimsby being negative and not wanting change, I suggest folk do some thinking. Not a single soul has been negative or dismissed the idea of a new ground, I’d say quite the opposite, but plenty are questioning funding and planning, and rightly so. In twenty years of ownership and constant mistakes and embarrassing experiences you could forgive fans for being a little sceptical...


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Latest estimate is the country is £170 billion pounds poorer than it would’ve been if we had voted to remain. It’s total madness in that we have effectively voted to put economic sanctions on ourselves!


Which male private worked that figure out
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Which male private worked that figure out


Someone who knows what their talking about. An expert in that field. Not an imbecile former England Test Captain with a World War fixation.
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Someone who knows what their talking about. An expert in that field. Not an imbecile former England Test Captain with a World War fixation.


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I just find it interesting that it appears people can’t see the difference between negativity and realism.

I haven’t actually seen anyone saying a new ground is a excrement idea, unnecessary and the likes, all I’ve seen is people asking a genuine question surrounding funding and whether or not the club has an actual plan.

Austerity has been imposed on the country for too long and has had only a negative impact, local authorities are feeling the pinch, ours in particular, so the likelihood of them having anything like the funds to support this is slim, I don’t see a queue of millionaires offering to build it, the one interested party in the whole club was basically described as a tyre kicker and likely offered the ridiculous deal Fenty spoke about. We have a a couple of old blokes with zero experience of managing a project of this size, and last week we were informed that there’s confusion about ownership of the land.

So whilst people can make implies comments about people of Grimsby being negative and not wanting change, I suggest folk do some thinking. Not a single soul has been negative or dismissed the idea of a new ground, I’d say quite the opposite, but plenty are questioning funding and planning, and rightly so. In twenty years of ownership and constant mistakes and embarrassing experiences you could forgive fans for being a little sceptical...



Sorry to disagree Aldi but several posters on here have voiced a preference for BP to be up dated as opposed to moving ground. Not a view I share, I hasten to add. I worked for a local contract filling company that specialised in aerosols and they introduced a saying "Success comes in cans not can'ts". An obvious play on words but surely a better approach than "Can'ts unless you can categorically prove you can". The fact that JF and the Board have stated that they are now going forward with their plans for a new ground "on their own" indicates that they must have some kind of business strategy to achieve this.


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Sorry to disagree Aldi but several posters on here have voiced a preference for BP to be up dated as opposed to moving ground. Not a view I share, I hasten to add. I worked for a local contract filling company that specialised in aerosols and they introduced a saying "Success comes in cans not can'ts". An obvious play on words but surely a better approach than "Can'ts unless you can categorically prove you can". The fact that JF and the Board have stated that they are now going forward with their plans for a new ground "on their own" indicates that they must have some kind of business strategy to achieve this.


In the past I have voiced the opinion that BP should be updated but that was when we were still with Parkway or with the Great Coates choice simply because BP refurbishment was better than either and the docks/Freemo areas were not on the table. Since then, things have moved on and I doubt many would now go for BP over the East Marsh proposal at this time.

This is called realism because it is about considering the realistic options and choices. Negativity would be being against a move regardless of options. Sometimes they coincide ....... as they would if the Freemo proposal hits the buffers down the line over planning or finance.



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