Mysterious car/bloke at BP

Was heading through the BP car park yesterday and noticed a 19 plate Rolls Royce Phantom parked up in the middle, with an unknown bloke being walked to his car with JF holding a few binders. Obviously unsure who the guy was, but with all takeover talk quieting down recently, could this be something different? It definitely wasn’t Mr Shutes! Might be clutching at straws and it’s only a car, but not every day that kind of motor is seen in Grimsby! Wondered if anyone else was at the shop/offices and saw anything/anyone? UTM!

Can only hope. There has to be an end to this 20 year nightmare.

not sure, but if we're getting ring binders delivered by Rolls Royce we may have found an area the club can save some costs.

Jingye Delegation heading to Scunthorpe just popped by BP to have a cuppa maybe??

It was me formally submitting my proposal for topless barmaids.

I saw them . I’m also a professional lip reader . The bloke in the back with the ring binders definitely said to his driver ...”get the fook out of here now!!!”

Probably millionaire Farage casing the joint for Thursday's electioneering stunt at BP.
Strange that he's targeting Grimsby but holding the event in Cleethorpes. Has anyone told him Grimsby ends at Park St?.

He's never let facts get in the way in the past.

Quoted from Maringer

He's never let facts get in the way in the past.

But, miraculously, your preferred candidate is always a paragon of virtue, and would never dream of stating anything, anywhere that wasn't one hundred percent fact-checked, is as straight as a dye, always puts the interest of the public before any ideological beliefs and is kind to animals.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

But, miraculously, your preferred candidate is always a paragon of virtue, and would never dream of stating anything, anywhere that wasn't one hundred percent fact-checked, is as straight as a dye, always puts the interest of the public before any ideological beliefs and is kind to animals.

That is very perceptive of you. Glad you agree.

Quoted from Southwark Mariner

not sure, but if we're getting ring binders delivered by Rolls Royce we may have found an area the club can save some costs.

That's Ring & his binders then.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

That is very perceptive of you. Glad you agree.

I think you know I don't, but anyway it is non-football. But surely you have to laugh when someone makes such a daft lop sided comment, when every man and his dog knows politicians of all colours take part in, shall we say, stretching the truth?

Most probably Hanson,s agent.

Was it Mr Fenty's new roller being delivered, after all he received a good wedge out of last years accounts.

Farage isn't a candidate in any case. For somebody with such strident political views who is leading what ought to be a significant political party, you'd think he'd have another attempt to get into parliament. It seems the bottom-kissing circuit in the US is much more of a draw for him these days.

Wonder why GTFC have agreed to host this event? I get that any income is considered a good thing by many at the club, but it's a pretty divisive decision.

Quoted from Maringer

Farage isn't a candidate in any case. For somebody with such strident political views who is leading what ought to be a significant political party, you'd think he'd have another attempt to get into parliament. It seems the bottom-kissing circuit in the US is much more of a draw for him these days.

Wonder why GTFC have agreed to host this event? I get that any income is considered a good thing by many at the club, but it's a pretty divisive decision.

Would you think it divisive if the labour party held a meeting at BP? Would that be allowed in your world?

Considering we 70% leave, not so devisive.

Anyway, was it Robbie Fowler?

I want the torys to have a meeting there, one of their Russian donors might buy the club

As far as i have heard there is another potential investor out there, who has been shown sites and i presume is in preliminary stages. Regards a new ground,  I believe JF is now putting his eggs in a Freeman St basket as Shutes and the rumoured docks site are not going to happen.

No inside info on the above but an accumulation of little bits and bobs i hear.

One thing for sure....its gone very quiet all round. Not a bad thing as the repeated false dawns just become depressing

At one point we had the council leader raising the issue and seemingly trying to move along the process, now that the Tories have control and the council regeneration officer and club major shareholder are one in the same then it looks like a case of a very closed shop.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I think you know I don't, but anyway it is non-football. But surely you have to laugh when someone makes such a daft lop sided comment, when every man and his dog knows politicians of all colours take part in, shall we say, stretching the truth?

I don’t think you have to laugh at what Maringer said. Regardless of how deliberately misleading many politicians of different parties can be, it doesn’t mean they are all the same or that their methods and causes are morally equivalent, or all are as economically or socially as valid as each other.

I tend to think Corbyn is better for the country than Farage or Johnson or others of their ilk. I’d trust him a lot more than either of those two lying girl privates. Tories like them have copulated over places like Grimsby far more than Labour ever has. They’ve been in power for 29 years to Labour’s 18 of the 47 years since we joined the Common Market.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I don’t think you have to laugh at what Maringer said. Regardless of how deliberately misleading many politicians of different parties can be, it doesn’t mean they are all the same or that their methods and causes are morally equivalent, or all are as economically or socially as valid as each other.

I tend to think Corbyn is better for the country than Farage or Johnson or others of their ilk. I’d trust him a lot more than either of those two lying girl privates. Tories like them have copulated over places like Grimsby far more than Labour ever has. They’ve been in power for 29 years to Labour’s 18 of the 47 years since we joined the Common Market.

The fact that they have been in power for 29 years compared to 18 shows that most people do NOT agree with you! Why on earth do you think that your views are correct, and anybody supporting Farage or anybody else should be denied the opportunity to go along to BP as Maringer alluded to?

I guess you also think 17.4 million people were wrong? As I say, it is laughable that some people think only their colour rosette has any credibility.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

The fact that they have been in power for 29 years compared to 18 shows that most people do NOT agree with you! Why on earth do you think that your views are correct, and anybody supporting Farage or anybody else should be denied the opportunity to go along to BP as Maringer alluded to?

I guess you also think 17.4 million people were wrong? As I say, it is laughable that some people think only their colour rosette has any credibility.

Yes it does show more people disagree with me than agree. Doesn’t make them right though. And yes I do think 17.4 million people were wrong. It’d be totally illogical to change my view just because more people had a different view. I didn’t make my mind up on the basis of who I thought would win.

As for the Brexit Party event at BP, no one has said ‘only Labour must be allowed to hold an event there’. The original point made by a few people on Twitter and on Cod Almighty was that the Brexit Party shouldn’t be allowed to because they are more divisive than anyone else (apart from parties like the BNP or whatever they’re called these days). Personally I’d rather the club turned down any political group, especially now.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Yes it does show more people disagree with me than agree. Doesn’t make them right though. And yes I do think 17.4 million people were wrong. It’d be totally illogical to change my view just because more people had a different view. I didn’t make my mind up on the basis of who I thought would win.

As for the Brexit Party event at BP, no one has said ‘only Labour must be allowed to hold an event there’. The original point made by a few people on Twitter and on Cod Almighty was that the Brexit Party shouldn’t be allowed to because they are more divisive than anyone else (apart from parties like the BNP or whatever they’re called these days). Personally I’d rather the club turned down any political group, especially now.

You are obviously entitled to your view that you think the majority are wrong, but why that equates to the club turning down legitimate income from a political meeting during a General Election campaign I have absolutely no idea.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I tend to think Corbyn is better for the country than Farage or Johnson or others of their ilk. I’d trust him a lot more than either of those two lying girl privates. Tories like them have copulated over places like Grimsby far more than Labour ever has. They’ve been in power for 29 years to Labour’s 18 of the 47 years since we joined the Common Market.

Corbyn reminds me of a friend at school who was always talking about being kind to animals and then he left school and became a butcher’s apprentice.

Doesn't make you right either Kingston. In my opinion If you think Commie Corbyn would be good for the country you need your head testing!

"Jeremy Corbyn’s fitness for office was questioned today by three former Labour MPs who urged voters to back Boris Johnson instead.

Ian Austin, who worked a special adviser for Gordon Brown and in Downing Street, said that Mr Corbyn was an “extremist” who is “completely unfit” to be prime minister and told The Times that he would be voting for the Conservatives on election day.

“Voting for anybody other than Boris Johnson risks Corbyn getting into No 10 and I think that would be a disaster for Britain,” he said."

And I don't see why Brexit Party are at all devisive or should be lumped alongside BNP 🙄 They are no more so than the Liberal (un)democrats and if they were to hold a function at McMenemy's despite loathing their stance I wouldn't begrudge them and would welcome more income for the club.

I don't see their being vast swathes of rent-a-mob (il)liberal extremists foaming at the mouth in BP carpark come Thursday.

Personally, well done to the Club for welcoming people who represent the views of the vast majority of people in the area.

I think an income to the club is fine from any political party so long as the club stays nutral

Personally i would rather see pink floyd there, Could be a problem getting the crowd of 60 thou in but we live in hope as the football has left us all comfortably numb  

Personally i would rather see pink floyd there, Could be a problem getting the crowd of 60 thou in but we live in hope as the football has left us all comfortably numb  

I wouldn't welcome any controversial hate-inciting group - far right or left, but anybody else in the spectrum welcome in my eyes, like I say, even if not views I agree with.

Money in the coffers the bottom line.

Quoted from denni266

I think an income to the club is fine from any political party so long as the club stays nutral

Comedy gold.

Labour just held an event in executive suite of Blackpool football club... Chance for income, take it. Simples. Typical Remoaner whingeing.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

The fact that they have been in power for 29 years compared to 18 shows that most people do NOT agree with you! Why on earth do you think that your views are correct, and anybody supporting Farage or anybody else should be denied the opportunity to go along to BP as Maringer alluded to?

I guess you also think 17.4 million people were wrong? As I say, it is laughable that some people think only their colour rosette has any credibility.

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17.4 million out of 45.6 million people eligible to vote. That means 28.2 million did not vote to leave.

Just a thought!

Quoted from mimma

17.4 million out of 45.6 million people eligible to vote. That means 28.2 million did not vote to leave.

Just a thought!

Or 29.6 million did not vote to remain.

Just thought.

Back to the o p

Did he go for the quiz or in fact to see if pints of John smiths we're still £2

Quoted from grimsby pete

Or 29.6 million did not vote to remain.

Just thought.

😂😂😂 Like a boss Pete.

Owned.

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Some brilliant humour on this forum.
However bad things get we always seem to find a bit of nonsense to make us all smile.

Keep it coming

What like Corbyn would be great for country? 😂

Anyway, its either laugh or cry... 🤪

Quoted from Rik e B

Doesn't make you right either Kingston. In my opinion If you think Commie Corbyn would be good for the country you need your head testing!

"Jeremy Corbyn’s fitness for office was questioned today by three former Labour MPs who urged voters to back Boris Johnson instead.

Ian Austin, who worked a special adviser for Gordon Brown and in Downing Street, said that Mr Corbyn was an “extremist” who is “completely unfit” to be prime minister and told The Times that he would be voting for the Conservatives on election day.

“Voting for anybody other than Boris Johnson risks Corbyn getting into No 10 and I think that would be a disaster for Britain,” he said."

And I don't see why Brexit Party are at all devisive or should be lumped alongside BNP 🙄 They are no more so than the Liberal (un)democrats and if they were to hold a function at McMenemy's despite loathing their stance I wouldn't begrudge them and would welcome more income for the club.

I don't see their being vast swathes of rent-a-mob (il)liberal extremists foaming at the mouth in BP carpark come Thursday.

Personally, well done to the Club for welcoming people who represent the views of the vast majority of people in the area.

So he put his words in the Times did Mr. Austin? That nice newspaper owned by that er, nice man Rupert Fu****ng Murdock. Think you might need your head testing a bit Rik e B! Any Labour man worth his salt would NEVER EVER say such words or suggest to voters to defect to the enemy party of the working man.

If Corbyn said that everybody over 59 should be given a tablet all you 60 year old life long labour supporters would vote for him

Quoted from wuffing

So he put his words in the Times did Mr. Austin? That nice newspaper owned by that er, nice man Rupert Fu****ng Murdock. Think you might need your head testing a bit Rik e B! Any Labour man worth his salt would NEVER EVER say such words or suggest to voters to defect to the enemy party of the working man.

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Either that CGI or this life long Labour man a true patriot putting country before party.

With Austin, it's mostly down to the fact he'll do anything to avoid a pro-Palestinian PM getting into power. That's what the whole (mainly confected) antisemitism scandal is all about. He left the Labour Party months ago and is already a trade envoy to Israel. I'm sure he'll be well-rewarded elsewhere as well.

It is perhaps understandable that Austin has this approach as he was apparently adopted and raised by a holocaust survivor. A lot of the original Zionist movement came from the idea of a defensible homeland for Jews and, after the events of the Second World War, can you really blame them? Only problem, of course, is that they basically stole the land from under the Palestinians and, allied with the religious Zionist side, you get the apartheid state you see today with millions of Palestinians living in refugee camps many decades later.

You'll note that all the claims about endemic antisemitism in the party only came around after Corbyn won the leadership then survived the attempted coup by the Labour right-wingers. Considering he's a lifelong anti-racism campaigner, it's a strange stick to beat Corbyn with, but it's all they had.

One thing, though, let's stop with this 'Commie' nonsense. I get tired of noting that he's just really a moderate social democrat whose policies you would find in most of the western European countries. In fact, most of them wouldn't have been out of place in a Tory manifesto from the 60s and early 70s. The extremism began with Thatcher as she oversaw a transfer of capital and assets from the state to private hands (i.e. the already wealthy).

Quoted from Maringer

With Austin, it's mostly down to the fact he'll do anything to avoid a pro-Palestinian PM getting into power. That's what the whole (mainly confected) antisemitism scandal is all about. He left the Labour Party months ago and is already a trade envoy to Israel. I'm sure he'll be well-rewarded elsewhere as well.

It is perhaps understandable that Austin has this approach as he was apparently adopted and raised by a holocaust survivor. A lot of the original Zionist movement came from the idea of a defensible homeland for Jews and, after the events of the Second World War, can you really blame them? Only problem, of course, is that they basically stole the land from under the Palestinians and, allied with the religious Zionist side, you get the apartheid state you see today with millions of Palestinians living in refugee camps many decades later.

You'll note that all the claims about endemic antisemitism in the party only came around after Corbyn won the leadership then survived the attempted coup by the Labour right-wingers. Considering he's a lifelong anti-racism campaigner, it's a strange stick to beat Corbyn with, but it's all they had.

One thing, though, let's stop with this 'Commie' nonsense. I get tired of noting that he's just really a moderate social democrat whose policies you would find in most of the western European countries. In fact, most of them wouldn't have been out of place in a Tory manifesto from the 60s and early 70s. The extremism began with Thatcher as she oversaw a transfer of capital and assets from the state to private hands (i.e. the already wealthy).

Praise the Lord...someone that actually knows what is going on!!!

Well you didn't as you said he'd never say that 😂

Momentum are clearly far-left socialist extremists, listen, I've voted Labour several times in younger years but the truth is they abandoned the working man a long time ago and their metropolitan champagne socialists are not representing their Northern and Welsh heartlands at present.

The Tory lot the best of a bad bunch at the minute for me, once Brexit guaranteed I could maybe be persuaded to vote otherwise with a more centrist leader and outlook.

Apologies to the normal Fishy folk for stringing out the non-football 😬

Quoted from Rik e B

Well you didn't as you said he'd never say that 😂

Momentum are clearly far-left socialist extremists, listen, I've voted Labour several times in younger years but the truth is they abandoned the working man a long time ago and their metropolitan champagne socialists are not representing their Northern and Welsh heartlands at present.

The Tory lot the best of a bad bunch at the minute for me, once Brexit guaranteed I could maybe be persuaded to vote otherwise with a more centrist leader and outlook.

Apologies to the normal Fishy folk for stringing out the non-football 😬

Fifth richest economy in the world: Nine years of Tory cutbacks. People having to use food banks. Growing homelessness on our streets. Crime and violence going through the roof. Young people with no chance of owning their own property. Rents ridiculously high. Yes lets vote for some more of this folks.

Quoted from wuffing

Fifth richest economy in the world: Nine years of Tory cutbacks. People having to use food banks. Growing homelessness on our streets. Crime and violence going through the roof. Young people with no chance of owning their own property. Rents ridiculously high. Yes lets vote for some more of this folks.

Wanting to fix all of this is socialist apparently. Fully mad how blinkered some people are.

Quoted from Rik e B

Well you didn't as you said he'd never say that 😂

Momentum are clearly far-left socialist extremists, listen, I've voted Labour several times in younger years but the truth is they abandoned the working man a long time ago and their metropolitan champagne socialists are not representing their Northern and Welsh heartlands at present.

The Tory lot the best of a bad bunch at the minute for me, once Brexit guaranteed I could maybe be persuaded to vote otherwise with a more centrist leader and outlook.

Apologies to the normal Fishy folk for stringing out the non-football 😬

No need to apologise Rik - after all you didn't start it.

It is telling how some so called Town fans would starve the club of much needed funds, because they had the temerity to hold a meeting from a main stream political party that doesn't agree with their world view.

A lot of people calling Boris, FFS he's only been P.M. for 5 minutes. People are bringing things up when he was only in short trousers. He has cleared out a lot of the 2 faced gits like Hammond so as far as I can see he has only done good .

Quoted from Chrisblor

Wanting to fix all of this is socialist apparently. Fully mad how blinkered some people are.

...so Capitalism and total privatisation of life is the way to go then. Me blinkered? FFS.

2010:

The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne (Labour), left a note in a desk (to new Conservative government) stating, ''I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,''

Austerity unfortunately needed to save a Greece-style bankruptcy

Frankly I wouldn't mind BP hosting a National Socialist rally led by the Hitler himself if it led to us staying in the EU (and a new ground being built in the next 50 years)

Now that is seriously f**ked up.

(not the new ground part)

Quoted from Rik e B

2010:

The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne (Labour), left a note in a desk (to new Conservative government) stating, ''I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,''

Austerity unfortunately needed to save a Greece-style bankruptcy

A nice story but the occasion on which this really happened was when James Callaghan took over from Reginald Maudling following Wilsons election victory. The Tories left a defcit of £800,000,000

Anyway, this Brexit thing, has anyone decided what it means yet?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

It is telling how some so called Town fans would starve the club of much needed funds, because they had the temerity to hold a meeting from a main stream political party that doesn't agree with their world view.

And so it begins. You're trying to claim I'm not a Town fan because I think Farage is a populist chancer whose links to the far right and divisive and dishonest rhetoric shouldn't be supported. Just look who he's been consorting with in the US and you'll see what he's really all about.

I'm not going to turn up and protest or anything, but for me, Farage represents all that is the worst about the leave side of the debate. He's made a very lucrative career out of it, taking our money to do so (he's not done his job as an MEP but has taken every penny available and then some for 20 years) and he's clearly in it for himself before anything else. His current vehicle, The Brexit Party, is a private company with 3 owners (one of whom is Farage, of course). The bulk of their funding comes from small donations which can remain anonymous and don't need to be reported to the Electoral Commission - absolutely ripe for illegal payments from outside the UK. About as dodgy as you can get, even before you consider the fact that they've just unilaterally withdrawn their candidates from over 300 constituencies - no refunds for these aspiring candidates who had to pay for it, either.

If you're happy with all this, by all means go and wave your Union Jack, but I'm quite entitled to my view that it is disappointing that the club is accepting money from this charlatan.

For reference, by the way, I am a Town fan, which is why I got to the games, have had a season ticket for the past 30-odd years and post on this message board. Not quite sure why you think this makes me a 'so called' Town fan?

Quoted from Rik e B

Labour just held an event in executive suite of Blackpool football club... Chance for income, take it. Simples. Typical Remoaner whingeing.

He said Remoaner instead of Remainer, that's so funny!    

Quoted from Rik e B

2010:

The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne (Labour), left a note in a desk (to new Conservative government) stating, ''I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,''

Austerity unfortunately needed to save a Greece-style bankruptcy

you forgot to mention that this was as a result of a GLOBAL recession. Do you really believe everything you read in the Murdoch press?

non-football?

Quoted from Rik e B

2010:

The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne (Labour), left a note in a desk (to new Conservative government) stating, ''I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,''

Austerity unfortunately needed to save a Greece-style bankruptcy

The note was a joke (though Byrne is a clueless twonk).

Your comments about Greece show a serious lack of knowledge, unfortunately. It seems you've bought into the nonsense propaganda pumped out by the Tories and their billionaire chums in the media. The 'Magic Money Tree' shtick is nonsense as is the idea that government spending in the economy is like that of a household.

The UK government is the sole issuer of GBP Sterling and, as such, can never, ever run out of money. The Bank of England (owned by the UK government) either creates or authorises private banks to create every pound in existence and, as QE showed, if we want to simply create another £435 billion out of thin air, we can do so at the stroke of a pen. People think governments tax and then spend, but this is actually entirely the wrong way around. With a fiat currency such as Sterling, the government spends and then taxes later. When we decide to spunk several billion on some aircraft carriers, we don't have to save up tax receipts to be able to pay for it. We just create the money by writing a cheque and most of this is then recouped through taxation.

On the other hand, the sole issuer of the Euro is the European Central Bank (and private banks authorised by the ECB). Greece could not create more Euros to pay their debts because they didn't control the ECB singlehandedly (it's the Germans and French who effectively do this).

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Anyway, this Brexit thing, has anyone decided what it means yet?

It means we won't be dictated to by these Brussels bureaucrats. We'll be dictated to by corporate America lobbyists instead

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Anyway, this Brexit thing, has anyone decided what it means yet?

Therein lies the problem and my argument against the first vote.It was held too soon and people voted without knowing what leaving would entail (they just had Farage and Boris's lies about the NHS and immigration to go on)

In fairness we still don't know exactly what leaving will mean unless or until an agreement is reached. One thing's for sure it isn't going to be all nuts and honey and a wonderful future for the UK

"One thing's for sure it isn't going to be all nuts and honey and a wonderful future"

My grandad was right Swin, whoever you vote for, the government always wins.

Quoted from Maringer

The note was a joke (though Byrne is a clueless twonk).

Your comments about Greece show a serious lack of knowledge, unfortunately. It seems you've bought into the nonsense propaganda pumped out by the Tories and their billionaire chums in the media. The 'Magic Money Tree' shtick is nonsense as is the idea that government spending in the economy is like that of a household.

The UK government is the sole issuer of GBP Sterling and, as such, can never, ever run out of money. The Bank of England (owned by the UK government) either creates or authorises private banks to create every pound in existence and, as QE showed, if we want to simply create another £435 billion out of thin air, we can do so at the stroke of a pen. People think governments tax and then spend, but this is actually entirely the wrong way around. With a fiat currency such as Sterling, the government spends and then taxes later. When we decide to spunk several billion on some aircraft carriers, we don't have to save up tax receipts to be able to pay for it. We just create the money by writing a cheque and most of this is then recouped through taxation.

On the other hand, the sole issuer of the Euro is the European Central Bank (and private banks authorised by the ECB). Greece could not create more Euros to pay their debts because they didn't control the ECB singlehandedly (it's the Germans and French who effectively do this).

That is far too sensible for the fishy. Please take these logical opinions elsewhere.

So what's this about that bloke and the car then?

Quoted from SpudUDontLike

So what's this about that bloke and the car then?

Fu(k all, as far as I can see.

The same people who cry out “keep politics out of football” seem to be the same people who have absolutely no problem with a POLITICAL party holding an event at our FOOTBALL stadium.

It’s extremely naïve to think the Brexit party are merely hiring a room and we should take money from whoever we can. If you don’t think the Brexit Party will see holding an event at the home of the only thing that unites thousands of people in our community together will be seen as a feather in their cap, then you’re wrong.

I strongly disagree with the politics of Farage, The Brexit Party, and this Christopher Barker bloke is an absolute flipping joker, but I don’t think any political party should hold events at our club – it divides the fan base more than it already is (this event has clearly led to a lot of disagreements on social media between fans – same as it would if Labour held an event here), when we should be uniting, and GTFC should be the one thing that unites us for 90 minutes on a Saturday. It leaves a bad taste, and I think it’s a short-sighted move from the club….no surprise there, then.

Quoted from Ipswin

Therein lies the problem and my argument against the first vote.It was held too soon and people voted without knowing what leaving would entail (they just had Farage and Boris's lies about the NHS and immigration to go on)

In fairness we still don't know exactly what leaving will mean unless or until an agreement is reached. One thing's for sure it isn't going to be all nuts and honey and a wonderful future for the UK

For those of you who don't know how currency markets work I'll explain exactly how I see this panning out and what Johnson's puppet masters (the likes of Crispin Odey) are banking on happening;

I'll base the figures on £100m as this is the kind of money that they'll be gambling with (probably more in truth).

GBP/USD is currently at 1.28 which means that £1 buys $1.28. So currently £100m = $128m

If Johnson gets a majority the GBP/USD exchange is expected to rise to 1.35-1.45. I'll base it on 1.35 to be conservative. So in that instance the likes of Odey (oh and also Jacob Rees-Mogg) will sell £100m and receive $135m.

Here comes the interesting (and infuriating part) and why honest Nige claims he's dropped his opposition to Johnson's deal. The transition period won't be extended beyond December 2020 according to Johnson, so all it's doing is delaying our crash out on WTO terms by a year because there is absolutely no way on earth that we can negotiate a free trade arrangement in a year. On average it takes 3-7years. the forecast GBP/USD exchange for this kind of crash out on WTO terms is 1.12.

So on January 1st 2021, the currency crashes, these grifters sell their dollars. They have $135m which they purcahsed on December 13th 2019, they then sell them at 1.12 which leaves them with £120.5m making them a tidy £20.5m profit on their initial £100m while the rest of us are left with a destroyed economy in a net importing economy and ultimately become much, much poorer because, no matter what Liz Truss tells us, we're not able to be self sufficient! Look at us, we're a tiny island with a large population, it's obvious.

I don't know who's car it was though.

Quoted from Rik e B

2010:

The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne (Labour), left a note in a desk (to new Conservative government) stating, ''I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,''

Austerity unfortunately needed to save a Greece-style bankruptcy

If Boris had been in power it would said     ' the Crown Jewels are one the 3.30 at Kempton''

Cant see any problem with hold political meetings in a football stadium,
Very popular in Chile back in the day apparently

The Taliban use to use football stadiums for their political purposes

Right then folks
If you care To go to the non footy bit of the fishy, feel free to continue this POLITICAL debate.
We have gone from a possible takeover bid (which I’m interested in, so have to keep reading this thread), to yet more politics (which I‘m also interested in but not 24/7).  So if you would kindly take your discussion to the appropriate site I would be most grateful.  😄😴😴

Quoted from Civvy at last

Right then folks
If you care To go to the non footy bit of the fishy, feel free to continue this POLITICAL debate.
We have gone from a possible takeover bid (which I’m interested in, so have to keep reading this thread), to yet more politics (which I‘m also interested in but not 24/7).  So if you would kindly take your discussion to the appropriate site I would be most grateful.  😄😴😴

Maybe the club should do the same.

Quoted from Maringer

And so it begins. You're trying to claim I'm not a Town fan because I think Farage is a populist chancer whose links to the far right and divisive and dishonest rhetoric shouldn't be supported. Just look who he's been consorting with in the US and you'll see what he's really all about.

I'm not going to turn up and protest or anything, but for me, Farage represents all that is the worst about the leave side of the debate. He's made a very lucrative career out of it, taking our money to do so (he's not done his job as an MEP but has taken every penny available and then some for 20 years) and he's clearly in it for himself before anything else. His current vehicle, The Brexit Party, is a private company with 3 owners (one of whom is Farage, of course). The bulk of their funding comes from small donations which can remain anonymous and don't need to be reported to the Electoral Commission - absolutely ripe for illegal payments from outside the UK. About as dodgy as you can get, even before you consider the fact that they've just unilaterally withdrawn their candidates from over 300 constituencies - no refunds for these aspiring candidates who had to pay for it, either.

If you're happy with all this, by all means go and wave your Union Jack, but I'm quite entitled to my view that it is disappointing that the club is accepting money from this charlatan.

For reference, by the way, I am a Town fan, which is why I got to the games, have had a season ticket for the past 30-odd years and post on this message board. Not quite sure why you think this makes me a 'so called' Town fan?

I have read quite a few of your political posts on the non footy site, and to be honest I don't believe a word you say as you seem to so blinded by anything that does not fit your narrative.

Like it or not The Brexit party is a mainstream political party (because the majority did not agree with you about the EU) and either you accept their right to hold meetings at BP, or you ban all political parties from having meetings there which would ludicrous.

Feeling passionate about something does not make you right, and the majority of voters do not share your views, but you seem unable or unwilling to accept that simple fact.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

"One thing's for sure it isn't going to be all nuts and honey and a wonderful future"

My grandad was right Swin, whoever you vote for, the government always wins.

I just hope that whoever I vote for becomes the government

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

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The Brexit party is a mainstream political party

With no seats? Presumably then the late Lord Sutch's Monster Raving Loony party would qualify

Quoted from golfer

as far as I can see he has only done good .

You should have gone to Specsavers, those rose tinted specs are clearly worn out

Quoted from Ipswin

With no seats? Presumably then the late Lord Sutch's Monster Raving Loony party would qualify

They have yet to contest a General Election. They won the Euro elections earlier this year.

Quoted from golfer

If Corbyn said that everybody over 59 should be given a tablet all you 60 year old life long labour supporters would vote for him

Asking for a friend.... would these be blue by any chance?  

Voting for the Brexit party is a wasted vote IMHO.  We get Brexit sorted in a few months,  so what do they do for the next four and a half years? They don't have another meaningful policy on anything so their MPs will just sit there pocketing their allowances and quaffing cheap booze waiting for the next election.

This is not another referendum on the EU but a general election to vote how we want the government to run our country.

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I have read quite a few of your political posts on the non footy site, and to be honest I don't believe a word you say as you seem to so blinded by anything that does not fit your narrative.

Like it or not The Brexit party is a mainstream political party (because the majority did not agree with you about the EU) and either you accept their right to hold meetings at BP, or you ban all political parties from having meetings there which would ludicrous.

Feeling passionate about something does not make you right, and the majority of voters do not share your views, but you seem unable or unwilling to accept that simple fact.

They are not a political party in the normal sense of the word. They are a company, mainly owned by Farage who determines whatever policies they are likely to end up with, and therefore being a "member" confers none of the usual benefits that one would expect from belonging to any organisation.

The worrying thing is, Farage is the biggest snake oil salesman ever seen, and his idea of democracy is what suits his needs. So much for taking back control, his party "membership" can't do that.Those unfortunate folk who have been dumped as Brexit Party candidates have found out just what a conman Farage is as they have been refused their £100 deposits to the Party for standing in the first place. That's a cool £31,000 now lining his pockets, an awful lot of very nice claret on very good terms indeed! Those same candidates have all their access to the BREXIT Party database rescinded, so not only is grand theft larceny it's totally blanking the folk who basically idolised him. He will have made some enemies with these actions, but would he care? I think we know the answer to that.

....and yet. A good number of working class folk think the sun shines out of his nether regions because they've been blinded by the lies. If the election does see a Tory administration, a big crashing out of the EU by the end of 2020, I hope these same folk understand their health, wealth, and well being all depend on geting things right.

This is all well and good but what about the bloke in the f*cking Rolls Royce?

Quoted from jock dock tower

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I have read quite a few of your political posts on the non footy site, and to be honest I don't believe a word you say as you seem to so blinded by anything that does not fit your narrative.

Like it or not The Brexit party is a mainstream political party (because the majority did not agree with you about the EU) and either you accept their right to hold meetings at BP, or you ban all political parties from having meetings there which would ludicrous.

Feeling passionate about something does not make you right, and the majority of voters do not share your views, but you seem unable or unwilling to accept that simple fact.

They are not a political party in the normal sense of the word. They are a company, mainly owned by Farage who determines whatever policies they are likely to end up with, and therefore being a "member" confers none of the usual benefits that one would expect from belonging to any organisation.

The worrying thing is, Farage is the biggest snake oil salesman ever seen, and his idea of democracy is what suits his needs. So much for taking back control, his party "membership" can't do that.Those unfortunate folk who have been dumped as Brexit Party candidates have found out just what a conman Farage is as they have been refused their £100 deposits to the Party for standing in the first place. That's a cool £31,000 now lining his pockets, an awful lot of very nice claret on very good terms indeed! Those same candidates have all their access to the BREXIT Party database rescinded, so not only is grand theft larceny it's totally blanking the folk who basically idolised him. He will have made some enemies with these actions, but would he care? I think we know the answer to that.

....and yet. A good number of working class folk think the sun shines out of his nether regions because they've been blinded by the lies. If the election does see a Tory administration, a big crashing out of the EU by the end of 2020, I hope these same folk understand their health, wealth, and well being all depend on geting things right.

You don't like Farage which is fair enough. According to your strapline you don't like the Tories either, which is fair enough.

Other people do like both the Brexit party and/or the Tories.  They have a right to hold a political meeting at BP.

Quoted from mimma

Voting for the Brexit party is a wasted vote IMHO.  We get Brexit sorted in a few months,  so what do they do for the next four and a half years? They don't have another meaningful policy on anything so their MPs will just sit there pocketing their allowances and quaffing cheap booze waiting for the next election.

This is not another referendum on the EU but a general election to vote how we want the government to run our country.

I don't disagree, as I think the Brexit party will needlessly split the leave vote, but it is defending their right to hold a meeting at BP that is the issue.

Why don't you lot set up your own political party, go to Westminster to settle your debate and let the rest of us discuss who the bloke in the roller was, getting Fenty to carry his ring binders for him....in the words of Jimmy from Quadrophenia...."BELLBOY!!!!"...😂

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I have read quite a few of your political posts on the non footy site, and to be honest I don't believe a word you say as you seem to so blinded by anything that does not fit your narrative.

Like it or not The Brexit party is a mainstream political party (because the majority did not agree with you about the EU) and either you accept their right to hold meetings at BP, or you ban all political parties from having meetings there which would ludicrous.

Feeling passionate about something does not make you right, and the majority of voters do not share your views, but you seem unable or unwilling to accept that simple fact.

You don’t believe anything that Maringer writes even though he often accompanies his posts with evidence and is generally pretty well informed on these subjects. Yet he’s the one blinded by things not fitting his narrative. The hypocrisy is on another level.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Why don't you lot set up your own political party, go to Westminster to settle your debate and let the rest of us discuss who the bloke in the roller was, getting Fenty to carry his ring binders for him....in the words of Jimmy from Quadrophenia...."BELLBOY!!!!"...😂

Just returning to this point, and this is obviously second hand info from a mate, but I was told back in September there was another interested party in buying the club. My mate is very reliable and was telling me what a current director had told him. Surprisingly a figure of £5M was mentioned but as until this thread this rumour has never raised its head I thought it may be the normal balderdash but your guess is as good as mine.

I will reiterate though that this information came directly from a club Director

Quoted from mariner91

You don’t believe anything that Maringer writes even though he often accompanies his posts with evidence and is generally pretty well informed on these subjects. Yet he’s the one blinded by things not fitting his narrative. The hypocrisy is on another level.

That's the mindset of the Brexiteer though. They rely on nostalgia and a misplaced (and down right offensive) belief that we can "rally on the Empire" to get us out of this mess. Whoever presents them with facts, be it the Bank of England, The WTO, Human Rights Experts, Trade Experts they give the same response "THAT'S JUST PROJECT FEAR". You can't reason with these people.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

They have yet to contest a General Election. .

Hardly mainstream then and anyway the Brexit party is just a re-incarnation of the UKIP party and I can't recall them winning any seats at the last election either. In fact I think that drunken idiot Farage has tried to get elected to the House on a number of occasions without result hence his fear of failure again leading to his refusal to stand himself

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I think the Brexit party will needlessly split the leave vote,.

Oh I do hope so!

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Just returning to this point, and this is obviously second hand info from a mate, but I was told back in September there was another interested party in buying the club. My mate is very reliable and was telling me what a current director had told him. Surprisingly a figure of £5M was mentioned but as until this thread this rumour has never raised its head I thought it may be the normal balderdash but your guess is as good as mine.

I will reiterate though that this information came directly from a club Director

The interested party is Nigel Farage on the basis that GTFC are one of the clubs most unlikely ever to get into Europe

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I don’t think you have to laugh at what Maringer said. Regardless of how deliberately misleading many politicians of different parties can be, it doesn’t mean they are all the same or that their methods and causes are morally equivalent, or all are as economically or socially as valid as each other.

I tend to think Corbyn is better for the country than Farage or Johnson or others of their ilk. I’d trust him a lot more than either of those two lying girl privates. Tories like them have copulated over places like Grimsby far more than Labour ever has. They’ve been in power for 29 years to Labour’s 18 of the 47 years since we joined the Common Market.

If you think a marxist who hates everything about our country and way of life and is a friend of terrorist organisations is just what our country needs then I really feel for you and worry about the logic of your thinking.