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The port will be open to the public, so that's blown all site security, not that the gatehouse does a lot currently !!

Will ABP then hold all of the future aces for fan access, whereas Freemo would be freely open for business all through the week and hopefully resurrect a poorer area??

No paid for design artists' impressions at huge expense to be discarded when the new scheme goes cold ??

Just cynical from Telegraph exclusives that disappear - by the way, what's on at the Riverhead Bus Station Cinema this week??

Like the plans - nothing !!


The security could quite easily be moved. As you said it's not up to much at the moment.

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Quoted from acko338
The port will be open to the public, so that's blown all site security, not that the gatehouse does a lot currently !!

Will ABP then hold all of the future aces for fan access, whereas Freemo would be freely open for business all through the week and hopefully resurrect a poorer area??

No paid for design artists' impressions at huge expense to be discarded when the new scheme goes cold ??

Just cynical from Telegraph exclusives that disappear - by the way, what's on at the Riverhead Bus Station Cinema this week??

Like the plans - nothing !!


I'm not very familiar with the docks but wouldn't they simply move their perimeter fence to a new location outside the area opened up to the public?


I have an inferiority complex-It's not a very good one though.
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Quoted from acko338
The port will be open to the public, so that's blown all site security, not that the gatehouse does a lot currently !!

Will ABP then hold all of the future aces for fan access, whereas Freemo would be freely open for business all through the week and hopefully resurrect a poorer area??

No paid for design artists' impressions at huge expense to be discarded when the new scheme goes cold ??

Just cynical from Telegraph exclusives that disappear - by the way, what's on at the Riverhead Bus Station Cinema this week??

Like the plans - nothing !!


I'm not very familiar with the docks but wouldn't they simply move their perimeter fence to a new location outside the area opened up to the public?


I have an inferiority complex-It's not a very good one though.
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I think the plan is to fill in the dock adjacent to Murray Street. Looking at satellite images, it appears to be completely closed off by a marina.

I wonder if the non-chairman had long discussions with himself as council portfolio holder for regeneration. I suspect the docks is preferred to Freeman Street because certain people don't want to park their cars on the East Marsh.
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What will they do?  Drain the dock, build the stand around the edges and have the pitch on the bottom, access from the top??


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Years ago, around 1999/2000, the old GTISC looked at the docks area, and the only bit of land big enough for a stadium complex was off the North Wall. However, it was reported that it was unlikely that the location would support a stadium, structurally, and the tidal flooding was another big issue at the time.

Things may have changed, the new "proposed" site may not have those problems.


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I must admit than when this idea was first proposed some time ago I thought it was totally unrealistic. The cost of filling in a redundant dock plus the cost of a stadium , even with an enabling anchor tenant, seemed far too expensive. With the idea that the ground would be included in a regeneration scheme , then the whole plan looks totally different. I don't think access would be a problem .There is access at Locke Hill roundabout , the  access at Riby Square could be reconfigured and the Humber Street Bridge could easily be rebuilt. The fact that this whole project would cost many millions of pounds, then the amount spent on putting right the access points at Riby Square and Humber street would be well worth it. I don't see security being a problem either as , like someone has suggested, the new perimeter could be fenced off from the development.


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What will they do?  Drain the dock, build the stand around the edges and have the pitch on the bottom, access from the top??


This is not as hard as it seems. I think it was a Dutch firm that put in coffers and drained a considerable area for the new fish market.

Security would not be an issue because the whole area would be reconfigured, the ground would not be the only piece of development and the new road accesses needed would radically alter the current layout. ABP would simply create a new security barrier for the actual docks.



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So, which area are we talking about?



Filling in the orange area adjacent to Murray Street or the yellow area further along Murray Street which I believe is waste land?
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