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Heisenberg
September 30, 2019, 7:51pm
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Wishing death upon a teenager because they've tried to get everyone to notice Earth will be uninhabitable in a century if we carry on like we are is very cool! Well done you!


Oh, don’t be silly, I didn’t mean it like that. I suppose I should never have said a word, of course I don’t wish death on anyone, especially a kid, I just meant to say that she’s annoying and OTT. I chose the wrong way to say it. Apologies to those I’ve upset, I should have just said “she’s annoying”.
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Enlighten us, then, as to why "she's annoying"  Think you're best off to stop digging....


No attempt at ethical or social seduction can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred of the Tory party. So far as I'm concerned they're lower than vermin. Aneurin Bevan.
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Personally feel we should be making use of public transport hubs, cycle parks and footways to any new stadium to discourage the use of cars for traffic and pollution reasons. We have a new industry locally in green energy and we should be embracing it and doing everything we can as a town to be as green as possible. We are a small place and I don’t think anywhere in Grimsby and Cleethorpes is anything more than about 45 mins at a leisurely pace on a bike from the Docks/Freemo area.


100% agree. Any development built around personal car use will be outdated with expensive, defunct elements in the very near future.
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Well that day can’t come quick enough.


You horrible illegitimate.
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When or if we get a new ground, in x decades in the future, we may not need to have it built on terra firma.  
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Enlighten us, then, as to why "she's annoying"  Think you're best off to stop digging....


She just doesn’t seem genuine, that’s all. I shouldn’t have said a bl##dy word.
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100% agree. Any development built around personal car use will be outdated with expensive, defunct elements in the very near future.


If you think cars are going away any time soon then  I think you are completely wrong.
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Longer term future will be automated electric Uber (or equivalent) everywhere. Most people won't need to own a car but will instead call one when required (and, of course, you could book one for holidays and so forth). The cars will trundle off to charge themselves as required, possibly with a range extender used (at extra cost) where necessary. If people want to actually keep a car themselves, they can do, but it will cost them more.

The automation/software is almost there now, just the battery tech to follow. It will be perfectly possible in a decade though won't be the norm for a couple of decades or more, I'd have thought.

The authoritarian countries will implement it first, everyone else will follow, though much later.

Hopefully, they'll be powered by nuclear generated power and not the wind plus lots of gas mix which has been pushed by the oil companies.
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Quoted from LH
Personally feel we should be making use of public transport hubs, cycle parks and footways to any new stadium to discourage the use of cars for traffic and pollution reasons. We have a new industry locally in green energy and we should be embracing it and doing everything we can as a town to be as green as possible. We are a small place and I don’t think anywhere in Grimsby and Cleethorpes is anything more than about 45 mins at a leisurely pace on a bike from the Docks/Freemo area.


Not all green energy is GREEN or safer than CO2 have you heard of SF6 gas

Applications
SF6 finds application in the following areas, though some of these areas are now being covered by other gases:

* Production of electrical equipment (Utilities (use of electrical equipment - refilling, leakages compensation, accidents; use in accelerators for scientific and/or military purposes)

* Adiabatic properties applications, notably in tennis balls, shoe soles and in truck tyres.

* Electronics industry – SF6 is used by the semiconductor industry for plasma etching prior to Chemical Vapor Deposition (CVD).

And the downside…
Its applications aside, SF6 is a highly potent greenhouse gas. It has a global warming potential (GWP) 23,900 times greater than that of CO2 and an atmospheric life of 3,200 years.

As recently as 2002, industry released 600 metric tons of SF6 into the atmosphere – the equivalent of 3,103,896 passenger cars driven for a year, or the burning of 72,866 railcars of coal.

SF6 is also a product that presents a double-edged sword. Indispensable for the safe transmission of electrical power, yet due to its global warming potential, it represents a longer-term problem if used carelessly.

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Not all green energy is GREEN or safer than CO2 have you heard of SF6 gas

Applications
SF6 finds application in the following areas, though some of these areas are now being covered by other gases:

* Production of electrical equipment (Utilities (use of electrical equipment - refilling, leakages compensation, accidents; use in accelerators for scientific and/or military purposes)

* Adiabatic properties applications, notably in tennis balls, shoe soles and in truck tyres.

* Electronics industry – SF6 is used by the semiconductor industry for plasma etching prior to Chemical Vapor Deposition (CVD).

And the downside…
Its applications aside, SF6 is a highly potent greenhouse gas. It has a global warming potential (GWP) 23,900 times greater than that of CO2 and an atmospheric life of 3,200 years.

As recently as 2002, industry released 600 metric tons of SF6 into the atmosphere – the equivalent of 3,103,896 passenger cars driven for a year, or the burning of 72,866 railcars of coal.

SF6 is also a product that presents a double-edged sword. Indispensable for the safe transmission of electrical power, yet due to its global warming potential, it represents a longer-term problem if used carelessly.



Interesting, SF6 is a greenhouse gas and one of the Kyoto agreements substances that needs to be reduced, and from what I can tell is  used in electric grids wherever their power source ... there is also folk pushing for it banned in the EU by 2020. Surely it's not synonymous with green industries (or doesnt have to be)?

Found this link interesting:
https://energypost.eu/why-the-eu-should-ban-sf6/

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