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barralad
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No but I'd like to shake their hands.
We need Commie book shops like we do Nazi book shops.

And you call that trashing 😂 Your either the biggest snowflake on the fishy and (that's saying something) or just a plain old bullshixxer


"Commie bookshops"?? Are you a McCarthyite? Better check under your bed lad for those reds. One of the books those morons picked up was a critique of the abortion laws in Ireland...hardly Marxist is it unless of course you view a woman's right to decide what should happen to her body as ultra left wing.
As for the book about the "Jewish Question" it has absolutely nothing to do with the Nazi interpretation of the Jewish "Problem" resulting in the final solution and everything to do with a Marxist interpretation of the role of the Jews in a (modern) Europe. Abram Leon-one of the authors was a Jew and was murdered by the Nazis in 1944.


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"Commie bookshops"?? Are you a McCarthyite? Better check under your bed lad for those reds. One of the books those morons picked up was a critique of the abortion laws in Ireland...hardly Marxist is it unless of course you view a woman's right to decide what should happen to her body as ultra left wing.
As for the book about the "Jewish Question" it has absolutely nothing to do with the Nazi interpretation of the Jewish "Problem" resulting in the final solution and everything to do with a Marxist interpretation of the role of the Jews in a (modern) Europe. Abram Leon-one of the authors was a Jew and was murdered by the Nazis in 1944.


You keep kidding yourself Nazism and Communism are both evil ideologies with an end result of human suffering and misery, they should both be condemned to the history books. It's a disgrace to humanity that one is accepted and revered by extreme left wing idiots.


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You keep kidding yourself Nazism and Communism are both evil ideologies with an end result of human suffering and misery, they should both be condemned to the history books. It's a disgrace to humanity that one is accepted and revered by extreme left wing idiots.


And you keep kidding yourself that socialism must equate to communism.


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Or that communism as a concept is necessarily a bad thing. As history shows, the reality doesn't work due to human nature (i.e. the people who get to the top of the tree tend to be shits, regardless of the political or economic system in play). This is why it has just a handful of adherents (idealists) in most Western countries. Nothing wrong with the ideal that everybody should have enough however, which was the aim of the social democracy in operation from after the war until Thatcher started swinging her wrecking ball to destroy all that her betters had built before her.
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And you keep kidding yourself that socialism must equate to communism.


Let me educate you.... Socialism is the precursor to communism.

The goal of socialism is communism -

Vladimir Lenin


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Or that communism as a concept is necessarily a bad thing. As history shows, the reality doesn't work due to human nature (i.e. the people who get to the top of the tree tend to be shits, regardless of the political or economic system in play). This is why it has just a handful of adherents (idealists) in most Western countries. Nothing wrong with the ideal that everybody should have enough however, which was the aim of the social democracy in opI eration from after the war until Thatcher started swinging her wrecking ball to destroy all that her betters had built before her.


Nice wind up!
Socialism always ends in tears, and a wrecked economy oh and I nearly forgot a body count.
Socialism is the cancer of Society thank you Mrs M. for saving us.( albeit temporarily) because it never ends does it....Labour is Socialist.


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Oh, the body count argument again is it?


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Oh, the body count argument again is it?


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That’s it then it’s comfirmed you’re absolutely moronic, end of debate.


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Even though more left-wing than for some years, the current Labour Party policies are very much within the moderate social democratic range and of the sort which wouldn't have looked much out of place in the Conservative Party manifesto from the early 1970s. In fact, Grim, with the oncoming shitestorm we're facing thanks to the appalling failure of the policies of your beloved Tories over the past 40 years (and the Tory-lite New Labour administration to a lesser degree), they'll need something a lot more radical to deal with the fallout after whatever disastrous form of Brexit May manages to cobble together.

Your blind adherence to right-wing rhetoric is all the more impressive when it doesn't take much awareness to see how the country is falling apart around us. Poverty rising, inequality up, social care in catastrophe, Tory councils facing financial ruin and cutting services to the bone, education in crisis, NHS on the brink of collapse, no hint of a plan to deal with the aftermath of Brexit etc etc etc.

If Labour get into power, they'll not be trying to implement full-blown socialism, just social democracy. Let's hope it's enough.
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Let me educate you.... Socialism is the precursor to communism.

The goal of socialism is communism -

Vladimir Lenin


I doubt there is much you could educate me on. Communist in the goal of socialism is communism shocker. If only there were hundreds if not thousands of democratic socialist thinkers over time who don't agree with Lenin's assertion...


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