We're out of the EU!

Quoted from 97

And I still don't think Boris ever expected to win.

I don't think Cameron ever expected to lose. He gave us this referendum to pacify his own eurosceptics and UKIP, expecting to win 60/40, and putting the subject to bed once and for all. His renegotiations amounted to nothing, and the EU gave him nothing in return. Boris and Gove rebelled, and from thereon in he was always on a losing battle.

Quoted from Grimbiggs

I don't think Cameron ever expected to lose. He gave us this referendum to pacify his own eurosceptics and UKIP, expecting to win 60/40, and putting the subject to bed once and for all. His renegotiations amounted to nothing, and the EU gave him nothing in return. Boris and Gove rebelled, and from thereon in he was always on a losing battle.

The truth is if Cameron had any doubts at all of losing,

He would not have given us the vote in the first place.

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

I'm afraid its shear ignorance on your part. You are still saying "we had to listen to scare story after scare story" you know the ones:

The Scottish will look to split from us
How is this a scare story bye bye

We won't get free trade and free movement of people
we don't won't free movement of people

Financial Instability for the next 5 years and very high likelihood of everyday costs going through the roof
Blatant scaremongering

I was thinking more -

Joe Cox death was because of brexit

The destruction of western pollitical civilisation

Europe risks war and genocide

Calais migrant camps to move to UK

Back of the queue for a trade deal with the USA

House prices will collapse

Leaving EU membership will cost £3000 to each UK household

The CBI claim of £100 billion loss to our economy and a loss of a million jobs
(CBI u-turned yesterday saying we will prosper 😂)

And the Brexit budget!!  to name just a few

Even Jimmy Krankie warned project fear may backfire

Can't the Queen just veto the whole thing? She's spent 64 years and agreed to everything, she must have tempted for once in her life to actually be a head of state and not a paper pusher.

Regarding Cameron not expecting to lose, let's not forget that the referendum was only on the table because he never thought he would win a majority in the election last year. He made the offer to get the backing of the Eurosceptic side of his party under the assumption that the best he could hope for was a coalition which would have vetoed any such referendum. In the event, he was hoisted by his own petard.

His inept attempts at politicking for short term political gain have left the whole nation as well as Europe in turmoil and will see the end of the Union. In future years, he'll surely be seen as one of the most inept Prime Ministers the country has seen. Unless Boris takes over the reins, of course as you can only imagine how bad a PM that devious, self-serving, dishonest sack of shite would be.

Quoted from GrimRob

Can't the Queen just veto the whole thing? She's spent 64 years and agreed to everything, she must have tempted for once in her life to actually be a head of state and not a paper pusher.

http://bmsf.org.uk/about-the-monarchy/the-queen/duties-rights-and-powers-of-h-m-the-queen/

The common wealth tab is interesting  

A Commonwealth Realm is a country which has The Queen as its Monarch. The Queen is Head of State (Queen) of 15 Commonwealth realms in addition to the UK. She is also Head of the Commonwealth itself, a voluntary association of 53 independent countries. From Australia to Antigua, Canada to Cameroon, the Commonwealth is a remarkable international organisation, spanning every geographical region, religion and culture. It exists to foster international co-operation and trade links between people all over the world

Seems to be a couple of ideas emerging. One is that MPs will block us leaving the single market on the basis that the referendum ok'd us leaving the eu but it didn't specify the single market. This would leave us with a Norway type arrangement, out of the eu but still bound by its rules and the obligation to freedom of movement. The other is that there will be a special deal for us to become a sort of associate member, sort of in but not really in. The this is based on the notion that the politics of mutual necessity will kick in I.e.the French and Germans need to trade with us as much as we trade with them so the trade deals will be done quite quickly and they won't take as long as other deals because we already have much of the eu law already ingrained in our law.
Basically what is proposed is exactly what we had before  but we don't have any influence over eu policy but do have that ultimate prize of being able to say we aren't in Europe and don't do what the eu tell us coz we're British and independent. You couldn't make it up..... Where's ffs when you need him?

Quoted from forza ivano

Seems to be a couple of ideas emerging. One is that MPs will block us leaving the single market on the basis that the referendum ok'd us leaving the eu but it didn't specify the single market. This would leave us with a Norway type arrangement, out of the eu but still bound by its rules and the obligation to freedom of movement. The other is that there will be a special deal for us to become a sort of associate member, sort of in but not really in. The this is based on the notion that the politics of mutual necessity will kick in I.e.the French and Germans need to trade with us as much as we trade with them so the trade deals will be done quite quickly and they won't take as long as other deals because we already have much of the eu law already ingrained in our law.
Basically what is proposed is exactly what we had before  but we don't have any influence over eu policy but do have that ultimate prize of being able to say we aren't in Europe and don't do what the eu tell us coz we're British and independent. You couldn't make it up..... Where's ffs when you need him?

It was a ridiculously simple question: "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union?" for a many-headed beast like the EU!

Quoted from GrimRob

It was a ridiculously simple question: "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union?" for a many-headed beast like the EU!

Well in a funny sort of way it does give our politicians a certain amount of wriggle room. Certainly going to concentrate the great minds of Europe and the U.K. As to how best to work this out

Yeh i've seen alot of interesting opinions and options coming from economists from here and other countries on the news, none of it sounding too scary, its going to be an interesting time

meanwhile on twitter its remain voters still going on and on and on about not getting their way, and patronisingly going on about this petition asking leave voters to sign it treating them like stupid children who've wet themselves