We're out of the EU!

But the fact remains that one of the main reasons people voted out was johnny foreigners having free movement to our country, so all a bit pointless really.

Well, these incomers can always staff all these new hospitals that are going to be built, oh wait...............

Quoted from ginnywings

But the fact remains that one of the main reasons people voted out was johnny foreigners having free movement to our country, so all a bit pointless really.

Well, these incomers can always staff all these new hospitals that are going to be built, oh wait...............

We have not even started talks yet,

Come back in two years when we are further down the road,

Then you might have something to gloat about,

BUT

I think you will be saying , its going well now after a slow start,

A bit like watching Town .

Quoted from ginnywings

But the fact remains that one of the main reasons people voted out was johnny foreigners having free movement to our country, so all a bit pointless really.

Well, these incomers can always staff all these new hospitals that are going to be built, oh wait...............

I'm sure the government is well aware that whoever becomes PM having any kind of free movement is non negotiable as per the democratic vote.

The vote leave campaigners should apologise for that slogan your referring and could of been misleading to some, but I think even if the leave campaign had said that out of the money we claw back from the EU for example, we will pledge 20 million of that a week to the NHS.....1 billion a year!!   then I'm sure this would of been an equal winner.

As for the slogan on the bus to be fair needing stand out big letters there is only so much you can write " we send the EU  £350 MILLION a week, lets fund the NHS instead "  Is acceptable in the context in my opinion.

Quoted from Grim74

As for the slogan on the bus to be fair needing stand out big letters there is only so much you can write " we send the EU  £350 MILLION a week, lets fund the NHS instead "  Is acceptable in the context in my opinion.

Not if you have no intention of increasing funding to the NHS.

As an aside, it may not be more money that the NHS needs.  I think it was Shoreham Hospital that introduced an Emergency Ward which cut waiting times in A&E and massively reduced bed blocking.  Whilst you can't apply a one size fits all approach, innovative thinking will help hugely.  As will more investment in home and elderly care (two areas that have foolishly been cut).  That said, any party that proposes reducing the headline NHS budget would get hammered by the electorate.  

From a semantic point of view the main problem with the magic £350m is the word "send".  If they'd been a bit cleverer, the claims of mis-leading the public could have been hugely reduced.  Apparently, on the day of the vote 47% of voters believed that number to be true (according to the Media show on Radio 4 yesterday).  

With an ever-aging population, we most certainly do need to spend more on the NHS - a lot more.

Nothing wrong with attempting to innovate and develop new policies to assist in this matter, but it's spending that is required. The NHS is on the brink of collapse now, because of cuts or more precisely, a reduction on the increase in spending. Here's what the King's Fund thinks about it:

http://www.kingsfund.org.uk/blog/2015/10/nhs-spending-squeezed-never

This never-before seen historical reduction in spending isn't just by chance and isn't just to attempt to cut the deficit. It is a political decision to try and run the NHS into the ground so the Tory government can say, "Look, it's not sustainable - we need to privatise".

(P.S. Please, no claptrap about the cost to the NHS of immigrants. As has been noted in the past, immigrants are mostly of working age and therefore cost much less per capita than our general aging population. The taxes they pay help to fund the NHS and many of work there as well. I have a Polish dentist who has NHS patients. This deliberate running down of the NHS towards failure ought to be debated elsewhere as it really a separate topic to this thread).

Quoted from barralad

I'm sure I read somewhere that Australian immigration has gone up since the introduction of their much talked about scheme.

Must be the deal they have with the EU oh hang on  

Australia immigration is regulated, they need more, they let more in after they have had security and back ground checks. Nothing wrong with increased immigration if required by said country on that basis.

Quoted from Grim74

The EU starting to crack they cannot bully us anymore France are signalling today Britain could have a trade deal and control its borders!! Oh and look the FTSE 100 rose again making up all the losses from last week.... Armageddon we was told.... Bullshit they tried to feed us, but only 15 million cowards swallowed it.👍🏼

The pound dropping is a boost to the FTSE 100. The FTSE 250 on the other hand relies more on the performance of the pound and is still 7.7% below pre-Brexit levels.

Maybe you should be careful what you swallow.

Another drop in the pound today as well, following Carney's announcement that an interest rate cut is on the cards to try and stimulate the economy following the referendum vote.

Much of the recovery in the FTSE 100 some people are quacking on about is down to the devaluation of the pound. Should help the multinationals but not good for the man on the street as imports become more expensive.

A pity we don't produce anything much worth selling these days as the lower rate should be good for exporters.

Quoted from Vance Warner

The pound dropping is a boost to the FTSE 100. The FTSE 250 on the other hand relies more on the performance of the pound and is still 7.7% below pre-Brexit levels.

Maybe you should be careful what you swallow.

Actually recouped most of its losses since referendum sorry to disappoint.