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TheRonRaffertyFanClub
January 12, 2015, 10:11am
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Quoted from GrimRob


It's not just about money though, it's about his CV. Let me remind you....

2008-2009 Ilkeston Town Play-offs Winners
2009-2010 Boston United Play-offs Winners, Northern Premier League Challenge Cup Winners
2010-2011 Boston United Play-offs (PH left before they were knocked out)
2012–2013 Grimsby Play-offs, FA Trophy Runners-up
2013–2014 Grimsby Play-offs, FA Trophy Semis

If he wasn't our manager we'd be screaming for him to be with that record. He could more or less name his job at any team in non-league. Someone like Forest Green will snap his up if we let him go. It's not a gimme that we get to the play-offs every year and have a chance of winning the title. With someone else we could well be back to play-offs once every 3 or 4 years like say Wrexham.


Depends how well they do their research Rob to match up their needs with a new manager's strengths. Having said that, possibly Hurst might be a different manager in another club. He is no mug in football terms but he may have run out of goodwill at BP and is unable to change his approach. The biggest defect is the way he obviously regards talking to the media (and therefore the fans) as a chore and gives the impression other people are inferior to him in knowledge and ability. That could be different elsewhere with a new start as could his football style.

The trouble with us fans is that we like to be enthused and we like larger than life characters. Hurst doesn't fit the BP mould on his own.


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Quoted from GrimRob


It's not just about money though, it's about his CV. Let me remind you....

2008-2009 Ilkeston Town Play-offs Winners
2009-2010 Boston United Play-offs Winners, Northern Premier League Challenge Cup Winners
2010-2011 Boston United Play-offs (PH left before they were knocked out)
2012–2013 Grimsby Play-offs, FA Trophy Runners-up
2013–2014 Grimsby Play-offs, FA Trophy Semis

If he wasn't our manager we'd be screaming for him to be with that record. He could more or less name his job at any team in non-league. Someone like Forest Green will snap his up if we let him go. It's not a gimme that we get to the play-offs every year and have a chance of winning the title. With someone else we could well be back to play-offs once every 3 or 4 years like say Wrexham.


I would think GY have a much larger budget than Wrexham though Hurst seems to be going out of his way to drive down the fanbase here with his negative,boring and downright bizzare tactics at home.I would say away from home he is a very good manager at any level and tactics are usually spot on but wiping almost 4k off a gate in a few days sums his tenure up!
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Remember P.H. is very aware that he is dependent on J.F. for his job.He has seen his co-manager sacked quite ruthlessly,I would say he feels very insecure in his position,which may impact his willingness to challenges J.F over budgets signings etc. so he does not wish to risk his ire by identifying issues and arguing his position so he adopts non-confrontational everything is rosy stance.Just a theory.


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Quoted from Marinerz93
Shove the Barnet fans in the Osmond corner and open up the main Osmond to Town fans.  


BigChris - it would help deliver a passionate vocal crowd if the club paid heed to Marinerz93 and finally trialled this oft raised suggestion.

Having only recently moved to Grimsby I am benefiting from my first season ticket in the Upper Findus.

I am amazed (and simultaneously disappointed) that 40 away fans can sound louder in the Osmond than anything mustered by the pontoon. And it's NOT because the pontoon aren't singing.  They are - in treble/quadruple the numbers - but the noise is just drifting out to sea through the open ends.

If the rest of BP can barely hear the Pontoon there's not much chance of them being moved to join in.

It's not just about the Barnet game.  We need to improve the atmosphere at BP full stop, before it's too late.  We are wasting a golden opportunity by sticking to the status quo.    The Directors sit close to my seat. I know they will be hearing the same acoustic effect.  We simply cannot make the bear pit atmosphere with a half empty football ground if our vocal fans remain in the Pontoon.   Put the fans next to each other in the Osmond. Trying this for a couple of matches can't do any harm.

Up The Mariners


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Quoted from 1mickylyons


I would think GY have a much larger budget than Wrexham though Hurst seems to be going out of his way to drive down the fanbase here with his negative,boring and downright bizzare tactics at home.I would say away from home he is a very good manager at any level and tactics are usually spot on but wiping almost 4k off a gate in a few days sums his tenure up!


That's extremely unfair, it was a local derby and just after Xmas so many exiles, such as myself, were back home and able to attend. I'd left again by NYD and I'm sure it was the same for many others. Plus the away support from Macc was much smaller. I'm not for a second saying that the performance didn't stop others coming again because I'm sure it did but to say PH alone contributed to that is an exaggeration and grossly unfair.


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Quoted from Trawler


BigChris - it would help deliver a passionate vocal crowd if the club paid heed to Marinerz93 and finally trialled this oft raised suggestion.

Having only recently moved to Grimsby I am benefiting from my first season ticket in the Upper Findus.

I am amazed (and simultaneously disappointed) that 40 away fans can sound louder in the Osmond than anything mustered by the pontoon. And it's NOT because the pontoon aren't singing.  They are - in treble/quadruple the numbers - but the noise is just drifting out to sea through the open ends.

If the rest of BP can barely hear the Pontoon there's not much chance of them being moved to join in.

It's not just about the Barnet game.  We need to improve the atmosphere at BP full stop, before it's too late.  We are wasting a golden opportunity by sticking to the status quo.    The Directors sit close to my seat. I know they will be hearing the same acoustic effect.  We simply cannot make the bear pit atmosphere with a half empty football ground if our vocal fans remain in the Pontoon.   Put the fans next to each other in the Osmond. Trying this for a couple of matches can't do any harm.

Up The Mariners


Refer it to Nick GTFC or whatever his username is?
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Quoted from GrimRob


It's not just about money though, it's about his CV. Let me remind you....

2008-2009 Ilkeston Town Play-offs Winners
2009-2010 Boston United Play-offs Winners, Northern Premier League Challenge Cup Winners
2010-2011 Boston United Play-offs (PH left before they were knocked out)
2012–2013 Grimsby Play-offs, FA Trophy Runners-up
2013–2014 Grimsby Play-offs, FA Trophy Semis

If he wasn't our manager we'd be screaming for him to be with that record. He could more or less name his job at any team in non-league. Someone like Forest Green will snap his up if we let him go. It's not a gimme that we get to the play-offs every year and have a chance of winning the title. With someone else we could well be back to play-offs once every 3 or 4 years like say Wrexham.


Let's not forget we weren't screaming for him and Scott when Woods was finally sacked, weren't they 3rd choice?

Also if we are desperate for a manager that has won at the level of the Northern Premier League, there must be plenty out there who would jump at managing at this level.
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Quoted from friskneymariner
He has seen his co-manager sacked quite ruthlessly,


How was it ruthlessly? Rob Scott consistently acted like a child with no self-control, it was embarrasing at times.
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Quoted from BIGChris


Refer it to Nick GTFC or whatever his username is?


Doing that won't go anywhere since he's convinced all the young GTFC supporters go to matches to start fights rather than to back the players by generating an atmosphere.


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Quoted from Chrisblor


Doing that won't go anywhere since he's convinced all the young GTFC supporters go to matches to start fights rather than to back the players by generating an atmosphere.


What does this bloke actually do ? Stadium manager? Health safety rep ?
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