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October 4, 2014, 9:14pm
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Quoted from GrimRob
If JF has the 100 grand to spare that (my guestimate) it would cost to sack Hurst and appoint a replacement, then I'm indifferent how he spends his money as I don't think any other manager would make much difference (see Chapter 6 of Soccernomics  - Do Managers Matter? The Cult of the White Messiah). Personally if he's going to put 100 grand in I'd prefer it on strengthening the squad in January as that would almost certainly make a material difference.


Overestimate that mate. Hurst is on a one year rolling deal so what's his salary? 40k? 50k tops? Can't be on six figures. If we sack Doig too then it would add up but knowing this club, we won't go for a clean sweep and we'll go for an out of work manager so no compensation.
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October 4, 2014, 9:16pm

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what seperates you from some of the others who want hurst out (TheGreatRonRafferty or chaos33 for example) is yours and a certain few other's manner to post snide, sarcastic remarks like some sort of flipping online lynch-mob having a go at people whose opinions differ from yours.

engage in the argument properly, because otherwise it's just coming across as childish.

we're all town fans, albeit town fans with different ideas on how to solve the situation we're currently in.


Go back a good few months mate and we were called morons, racists, bell ends, bullies.........say what you want, it's a forum, to do exactly that


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October 4, 2014, 9:16pm
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I'm guessing about half that for PH, the rest for a replacement and any players he might want. I stand to be corrected  though if that is not the figure.


Rob appreciate that PH is on a rolling 12 month contract and I do not disagree with some of your estimated costs. There may however be a clause which upon termination by the club only gives PH a certain per centage of his annal salary, a bit like Moyes only got a paltry £5M when Man Utd terminated his six year contract.

I genuinely feel that the crowd will be down by a 1000 this Tuesday and this financial loss to the club will be the factor that brings his reign to an end, if he survives the board meeting on Monday.
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October 4, 2014, 9:18pm

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Overestimate that mate. Hurst is on a one year rolling deal so what's his salary? 40k? 50k tops? Can't be on six figures. If we sack Doig too then it would add up but knowing this club, we won't go for a clean sweep and we'll go for an out of work manager so no compensation.


Signing on fee/expenses for new manager, possible compensation for new manager, transfer kitty for new manager. Then most of the players are PH players, they may see their contracts out without 100% effort if they think they won't be here next year. Might have to pay a few of them off to get them out the door.


'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.  
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Overestimate that mate. Hurst is on a one year rolling deal so what's his salary? 40k? 50k tops? Can't be on six figures. If we sack Doig too then it would add up but knowing this club, we won't go for a clean sweep and we'll go for an out of work manager so no compensation.


Pretty sure he's actually only on a six month rolling contract (http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.....30-detail/story.html) so if this is still the case it'll be (relative) peanuts to get rid of him.

What about Neil Redfearn from Leeds? Highly rated young, academy coach who knows the non-league from his playing days. Did a great job for them as caretaker but got snubbed by their mad Italian president. Could be a eager to have a go at the 'big job'.

Can't make my mind up whether I want a highly rated, 'exciting', left-field appointment (someone young, eager) or a wily, old fox like Ronnie Moore. The only thing I do know is i've got no confidence in this clown and he should've gone when he stabbed his mate in the back.
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October 4, 2014, 9:31pm
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you mean the likes of forza ivano and fcukthescunts and quite a few others all giving it the big un and got quite personal when I was saying hurst should go for weeks.

when ever we won (not often like) I was taunted and always got as you say silly little remarks aimed at me on here for being negative etc.

so let me say I don't care what you think and let me tell you I take no pleasure in being right but please don't try to tell me how to put my opinion across on here .

I have engaged correctly many times but sometimes its nice to give out what you have been given.

thanks.


Not by me. So why then do you think it nice to respond in this way to others regardless of whether or not they have treated you this way?
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October 4, 2014, 9:53pm

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you mean the likes of forza ivano and fcukthescunts and quite a few others all giving it the big un and got quite personal when I was saying hurst should go for weeks.

when ever we won (not often like) I was taunted and always got as you say silly little remarks aimed at me on here for being negative etc.

so let me say I don't care what you think and let me tell you I take no pleasure in being right but please don't try to tell me how to put my opinion across on here .

I have engaged correctly many times but sometimes its nice to give out what you have been given.

thanks.


just because some people have aimed things at you in the past doesn't give you the right to do it to others, especially as those other's you've named are not the poster you directed your retort at.

"please don't try to tell me how to put my opinion across on here." you can do it however you like, however i'm telling you that i percieve it as childish and therefore have much less respect for your "arguments" when put in such a manner, than those of posters who engage in a less mammary-for-tat manner.

a question, has DavidB ever "given it the big-un" or "got personal" with you, or are you just grouping all persons who are not firmly in the hurst-out camp together, as though they are one entity?

"sorry your honour, but i punched this geezer in the street the other day. he hadn't done anything no, but last week someone punched me, so you know, it was nice to do it myself to someone else" - that won't exactly get you the "aggravated" part of assault added to your crime.
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If JF goes than our budget would take a huge nosedive and we'd have a much less competitive team. I struggle to see why anyone would want to see this, it's like saying I think I can do better without my left hand.


Wrexham do ok. They are fan owned I believe?
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October 4, 2014, 10:05pm
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Pretty sure he's actually only on a six month rolling contract (http://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.....30-detail/story.html) so if this is still the case it'll be (relative) peanuts to get rid of him.

What about Neil Redfearn from Leeds? Highly rated young, academy coach who knows the non-league from his playing days. Did a great job for them as caretaker but got snubbed by their mad Italian president. Could be a eager to have a go at the 'big job'.

Can't make my mind up whether I want a highly rated, 'exciting', left-field appointment (someone young, eager) or a wily, old fox like Ronnie Moore. The only thing I do know is i've got no confidence in this clown and he should've gone when he stabbed his mate in the back.



I'm not being funny or anything I want Hurst gone as much as you but what makes you say he stabbed Scott in the back I'm just curios?
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