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MuddyWaters
October 4, 2014, 8:34pm
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Message for John? I don't believe you believe in him John. Sorry.
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Sack Paul Hurst Monday and you will have finally gotten a Managerial decision right!
Ps  Gary Mills failing that Neil Aspin


For me they would be my top two targets as well.
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If JF has the 100 grand to spare that (my guestimate) it would cost to sack Hurst and appoint a replacement, then I'm indifferent how he spends his money as I don't think any other manager would make much difference (see Chapter 6 of Soccernomics  - Do Managers Matter? The Cult of the White Messiah). Personally if he's going to put 100 grand in I'd prefer it on strengthening the squad in January as that would almost certainly make a material difference.


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Message for John? I don't believe you believe in him John. Sorry.


I have this little feeling john is running out of patience now.

The thing is I would love to know what he really thinks and a nice little statement from him would do the trick.

we knows what happens when we get a fenty statement.


GTFC
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If JF has the 100 grand to spare that (my guestimate) it would cost to sack Hurst and appoint a replacement, then I'm indifferent how he spends his money as I don't think any other manager would make much difference (see Chapter 6 of Soccernomics  - Do Managers Matter? The Cult of the White Messiah). Personally if he's going to put 100 grand in I'd prefer it on strengthening the squad in January as that would almost certainly make a material difference.


Given Paul Hurst`s last 2 January transfers windows not sure he can be relied upon to improve anything Rob? The 100K you quote could be peanuts if we get the right man in and gain Promotion with our squad I think a new Manager before Tuesday could still win the League.
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Quoted from GrimRob
If JF has the 100 grand to spare that (my guestimate) it would cost to sack Hurst and appoint a replacement, then I'm indifferent how he spends his money as I don't think any other manager would make much difference (see Chapter 6 of Soccernomics  - Do Managers Matter? The Cult of the White Messiah). Personally if he's going to put 100 grand in I'd prefer it on strengthening the squad in January as that would almost certainly make a material difference.


Yes it would. Those extra defenders Hurst would sign would probably be worth another 2 or 3 points to us by May.



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October 4, 2014, 8:40pm
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If JF has the 100 grand to spare that (my guestimate) it would cost to sack Hurst and appoint a replacement, then I'm indifferent how he spends his money as I don't think any other manager would make much difference (see Chapter 6 of Soccernomics  - Do Managers Matter? The Cult of the White Messiah). Personally if he's going to put 100 grand in I'd prefer it on strengthening the squad in January as that would almost certainly make a material difference.


Hurst wont be on a contract worth 100 grand. He is on a rolling contract isn't he?
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If JF is reading, as well as Hurst's exit, please plan your own exit strategy.  We keep thinking you can't take this club any lower than you have, but you keep going one better each time with awful decisions every time. You spout on  about saving the club financially, nonsense, you've killed it, all for your own ego.  Step away please!
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Given Paul Hurst`s last 2 January transfers windows not sure he can be relied upon to improve anything Rob? The 100K you quote could be peanuts if we get the right man in and gain Promotion with our squad I think a new Manager before Tuesday could still win the League.


I agreee if it works then it's money well spent, the problem is Fenty has to dip his hand in his pocket now with no guarantee of success. And what the chapter in that book I keep on harping on about says is statistically that changing managers on average makes very little difference - as it hasn't for us in our recent history.

I am glad I don't have  to decide anyway. I suspect the current situaton is not bad enough to tempt him (and the rest of the board) but who knows.


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Maybe there's something to be said about attendances. This aspect will drive the decision I think. If people start voting with their feet then the pressure will mount. I think it's almost certain that there'll be less than 3000 there on Tuesday. Maybe as few as 2500. If that result is anything other than a win, I can't see that there would be anywhere left to go.

For me, there's a small window of opportunity to act and give a new manager a chance to address the shortcomings and save the season. If we dally much longer, we'll be too far adrift and running out of time. The writing is on the wall and Hurst has had long enough. We are going round in circles.

The bigger problem that I've got is that I've got no faith in the owner.


"You should do what you love while you can"
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