To the Owners (merged)

Quoted from HertsGTFC

Yeah but in reality what does that mean? Is it obvious? Generally when you accept responsibility you actually do something. Just saying that isn’t a get out of jail free card I think.

Seems very ambiguous.

I think it's fairly clear. They accept responsibility for the excrement we are in.
They are doing something, at the minute they are sticking with him, it's just not the thing you and most of us want them to do.
I'd have liked them to let Hurst have the window, but they make the decisions, for which they're accepting responsibility.
I want them to sack him, but ultimately it's their choice. I see it as a momentary vote of confidence, you don't make a statement like that if you're not considering a sacking. Lose Saturday and I think he will be gone, they will be preparing for having to sack him.

In fairness to the owners, this is a very difficult position.
Do you let Artell have another away game? As he believes the problem is the home form or do you pull the trigger?
I completely get why they would procrastinate. The stakes are very high as it will be very difficult to shift season tickets for a third stint in the national league. The support base is very tired and me and my mates would be extremely unlikely to commit to season tickets to watch Borehamwood and Dorking. Therefore, the owners would stand to lose a lot of money if our sentiments are reflected across the fan base which I fear they are. A third dip into the National League proves that we are not able to sustain a football league team killing the point of promotion back to the EFL. Very tough position but clubs have been in this position before and clawed back. Our issue is that morale is unbelievably low after what for me has been the worst run of home  form I have seen. My mates in different parts of the country no longer take the Mickey, we are beyond being a laughing stock! Utm

Quoted from Zmariner

In fairness to the owners, this is a very difficult position.
Do you let Artell have another away game? As he believes the problem is the home form or do you pull the trigger?
I completely get why they would procrastinate. The stakes are very high as it will be very difficult to shift season tickets for a third stint in the national league. The support base is very tired and me and my mates would be extremely unlikely to commit to season tickets to watch Borehamwood and Dorking. Therefore, the owners would stand to lose a lot of money if our sentiments are reflected across the fan base which I fear they are. A third dip into the National League proves that we are not able to sustain a football league team killing the point of promotion back to the EFL. Very tough position but clubs have been in this position before and clawed back. Our issue is that morale is unbelievably low after what for me has been the worst run of home  form I have seen. My mates in different parts of the country no longer take the Mickey, we are beyond being a laughing stock! Utm

I think everyone has a different mindset. There are some who are already stopping going, some who are against renewing STs if we go back down and many who won't renew anyway because they're fed up with the excrement being served up on a much too regular basis.

No one expected this season to pan out like this. I imagine the owners especially.

Even if some folk have turned it in already, we’re not going short of support. Home or away. BP was full on Saturday. Shame then (and I pick that word deliberately) that they are, time and again, having to spend their Saturday afternoon and substantial sums of money on being humiliated,, ripped off, let down and infuriated. The great tragedy of this current predicament is the appalling waste of that collective energy and resource and the way that everyone associated with Grimsby Town - loyal and patient and bursting to cheer and applaud (or at least, to share in some sort of collective pride, win lose or draw)…..is being smashed in the face with incompetence and general sh1ness. Repeatedly. And no decisive action taken.

Although I don’t agree with it, I can understand why he’s being given until the Morecambe game. And I hope we win. But I don’t believe it.

Occurred to me yesterday that we’re dealing with a bloke who likely has a family and kids or nephews/nieces who look up to him. It’s a sh1t business and I hate it when it collapses like this.

Quoted from 140381

Occurred to me yesterday that we’re dealing with a bloke who likely has a family and kids or nephews/nieces who look up to him. It’s a sh1t business and I hate it when it collapses like this.

It's hardly a disgrace for a football manager to get the sack. It's the norm and it's a big payday for the individual. He'll no doubt construct some narrative to say what happened and tell it all to his friends and family freeing him of most of the blame.

From a human point of view, ending it now would be best for everyone, and I include him in that. I haven’t taken to him and it’s not working at all, and can’t, from what I know, but I don’t want him to get loads of verbal abuse. That’s really not right. He’s a person with feelings and a family. If it gets worse, and we will lose to Morecambe, then the toxicity engulfs even more people and more intensively. As I said in another thread; the owners can’t want that to exist in their organisation. Failure, fury and abuse. It’s really ugly.

Quoted from 140381

Although I don’t agree with it, I can understand why he’s being given until the Morecambe game. And I hope we win. But I don’t believe it.

Occurred to me yesterday that we’re dealing with a bloke who likely has a family and kids or nephews/nieces who look up to him. It’s a sh1t business and I hate it when it collapses like this.

Genuine question, what logic do you see in giving Artell the Morecambe game? I have to say, I’m struggling to find any argument whatsoever, personally.

Quoted from GrimRob

It's hardly a disgrace for a football manager to get the sack. It's the norm and it's a big payday for the individual. He'll no doubt construct some narrative to say what happened and tell it all to his friends and family freeing him of most of the blame.

It’s not so much the sack I’m referring to, more the abuse side of things - he was getting it direct as I walked out after the fourth goal. I’m sure he’s far more thick skinned than I am.

Quoted from 140381

Although I don’t agree with it, I can understand why he’s being given until the Morecambe game. And I hope we win. But I don’t believe it.

Occurred to me yesterday that we’re dealing with a bloke who likely has a family and kids or nephews/nieces who look up to him. It’s a sh1t business and I hate it when it collapses like this.

It’s only on the same level as him telling various players that they’re free to leave.