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Manchester Mariner
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Presumably you mean Harry and her


No  I definitely meant the Royal Family. They should've privatised the Royal Family years ago. Why should the public pay for their upkeep when McDonald's would love to have their logos slapped all over their palaces for a premium amount?


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Harry has done exactly as Edward 8th. He has turned his back on his family, his country and his comrades in the services. He choose to leave our country to go across the pond with his actress wife. She seems to put on a good show for the millions they are raking in.

He could have stayed here and stand up for his wife, but choose to run away.

At the end of the day on a thread like this you are either for or against the monarchy.  

Long live the Queen and our Monarchs after her.


No he has not, Edward 8th was King and knew the rules at the time. Charles who will be the next King has married a divorced woman so is perhaps a closer example than Harry who was never going to be King. Edward 8th was a nazi sympathiser who  was friendly with Hitler, Harry fought on the front line in Afghanistan (not his fault it was an illegal war)
The least he should expect is for the Queen to stand up and put false stories right rather let everyone believe the opposite of the truth in the incident between her and Kate. As Meghan said they were quite happy to defend Katewith a lie rather than back her with the truth
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Just all very sad TBH. Terrible how it is being played out in public. Tabloids must be loving it.


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Protecting and standing up for his wife is strange?  The Royal Family are past their sell by date and should end with the Queen,   His father not taking Harry's calls seems pretty indefensible, some worried about how dark the baby might be and little or no concern about Megan's mental issues while shielding Andrew shows how out of touch they are


I would imagine his father feels pretty badly treated too considering the emotional and moral support he has given, not to mention the Bank Of Dad that got them to Frogmore and then out of the country.

I can’t see why the monarchy should end with the Queen either. Yes it should be pruned right back and Charles is on record to that effect. There are people in the family whose conduct has been indefensible but I know families in Grimsby who have some pretty horrible black sheep. I don’t think that in itself affects the role of the monarchy as non-political ceremonial representative of the state whose job is to warn and advise and encourage. The idea of someone like Trump being the Head Of State for X years appals me. If Charles steps outside of the role the Queen has taken with his ultra-woke ideas then I might agree about getting rid. William appears to have more sense. But in any case the U.K. does not have the same institutions as countries where they have a political head of state and having the jobs separated has too many advantages to be destroyed just because some people cannot see past the personalities of individuals who were born into something.

As far as H&M are concerned, they have shot themselves in the foot, burned their bridges and any other metaphor for being silly bu99ers. Much of what they say is so clearly untrue it is laughable but it is meant for an American audience. The problem for them now is that they have alienated a host of people who thought they were OK but now find they are a pair of middle aged wannabe celebs badmouthing Harry’s family. What effect this has on their reception on a possible visit to the U.K. remains to be seen but I fear it will not be very welcoming.

Some compare them with the Edward VII and Mrs Simpson but that isn’t right. He was the King, Harry is much lower down the pecking order and that seems to have rankled with MM who felt she should be treated as equal to the Wessexes. She expected to be a Princess and she expected to use the resources that would bring to promote her own agenda. Mrs S was never about doing that. Their only similarity is the way they control their men. Harry was born into something he doesn’t like but he did like the privileges. We might have admired Harry if he had given it all up for love and moved to the US with no RF financial support. But he wants it all.  To sit there moaning he had to use his mother’s inheritance of £15m after getting another small fortune from his father does stick in the craw.



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Close to royal circles as well as knowing everything else about anything. Is there nothing the old white man on a lower league football forum doesn’t know?
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Just all very sad TBH. Terrible how it is being played out in public. Tabloids must be loving it.


We’re paying for it we may as well have a little entertainment out of them, It is sad it is being played out in the toxic tabloid press, but the way they have behaved should be highlighted, if we want a racist hypocritical family to represent Britain let’s have their behaviour out in the open
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I would like to be able to say something meaningful and insightful about the whole kerfuffle, but I simply don't give enough of a shite to bother wasting 5 minutes thinking about it. Possibly the least important thing occurring in the world at present.
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We’re paying for it we may as well have a little entertainment out of them, It is sad it is being played out in the toxic tabloid press, but the way they have behaved should be highlighted, if we want a racist hypocritical family to represent Britain let’s have their behaviour out in the open


Agree......just hope Andrew's past eventually catches up with him. Doubt it though.


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Close to royal circles as well as knowing everything else about anything. Is there nothing the old white man on a lower league football forum doesn’t know?


😂 To be fair I heard similar from my Mum yesterday. It's incredible how random people with no connections to any of the circus seem to know the inner most thoughts and motivations of these people and then present their in depth analysis to people who mostly don't really care. It's like an episode of Loose Women.



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I would like to be able to say something meaningful and insightful about the whole kerfuffle, but I simply don't give enough of a shite to bother wasting 5 minutes thinking about it. Possibly the least important thing occurring in the world at present.


I dunno, I am very much against the monarchy and usually can't be doing with the media circus about a family I don't know and couldn't give two shits about.

But this is quite big if you look past the faux-offence from the Royalists. It is starkly exposing the Royal Family and will get the monarchy debate to the forefront again at least. Think it'll be interesting to see if support for getting rid grows.
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