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Quoted from Hagrid

A standard league 2 goalkeeper saves both of them.

Absolute nonsense as regards the second goal. Really well hit, close in, unimpeded shot and the angle wasn't that tight. Little chance for any keeper if it is hit as well as that and is on target.

I can't understand why the defender in the centre didn't go across to him as he ran through. Not sure who it was, but he stayed in the middle which was a terrible decision.

Utilmately, the difference between the two teams is pretty clear just from looking at the starting striker partnerships. Both Palmer and Mullin are hugely experienced, each having played hundreds of league games. Wilson has played not far off a hundred (which surprised me a little), but is in his highest-scoring season in the league. That's with 5 goals.

I thought we had some particularly poor performances yesterday, Cartwright obviously but also it was tharmes worse game in a town shirt, terrible clearance giving the opportunity for the second goal and continually giving the ball away when attempting long passes upfield. Even his long throws were worse than normal although that might have been just good defending from Wrexham.

Hume was poor as well, holohan and green were anonymous and Wilson and obikwu offered nothing at all albeit they were feeding on scraps. Thompson motm for me and the subs improved us a bit bar Pyke but Wrexham were in cruise control by then anyway.

Wrexham barely had to get in 2nd gear to beat us.

I can't believe some people want Cartwright to stay next year, he's an adequate back up keeper I.e. emergency option and that's it. Eastwood isn't even that really but we are stuck with him for another year so we need a proper GK bringing in in the summer. In time cartwright will be good but that's in a few years and he isn't even our player anyway so we'd be accepting current mediocrity to improve another teams player.

We really missed rose today although I can't see it wouldve changed the ultimate outcome of the match.

Makes you wonder what Hurst saw in Eastwood,Vernham and Hunt to give them such long contract,whilst he would not give Crocombe a 2 year one,that decision may come back to bite us,

Quoted from friskneymariner

Makes you wonder what Hurst saw in Eastwood,Vernham and Hunt to give them such long contract,whilst he would not give Crocombe a 2 year one,that decision may come back to bite us,

There’s a chance we’ll see Crocombe back at BP next season……playing L2 football with Burton.

We are reliant on a young kid in goal because the other keeper is very poor indeed. I have no doubt that Hursts management of that position has cost us several points this season. Letting Max go and replacing him with these two was definitely a mistake.  It’s unfair on Cartwright to expect him to be the consistent finished article with effectively no capable backup.

The other disastrous mistake was letting Orsi go. He is on course to score 20 goals this season. I am pretty sure we would have a few more points with him in the squad too.

Quoted from Maringer

Absolute nonsense as regards the second goal. Really well hit, close in, unimpeded shot and the angle wasn't that tight. Little chance for any keeper if it is hit as well as that and is on target.

Absolute nonsense, it goes through his hands:



Of course the outfield players shouldn't be scythed through on the counter like they were, but a league two standard keeper has to be saving a shot like that.

Looks an easy save in slow motion, but they always do. It was hit very cleanly and very accurately with no defenders anywhere close enough to have any sort of an impact. You often see  shots like this go straight through the keeper's hands. David Seaman used to be especially partial to them, I seem to recall. I suspect the keepers train to keep their bodies a bit lower with their arms out to reduce the amount of goal on view but a cleanly-struck shot above their heads doesn't give the time to react. They would probably concede more standing up to the shot as most are hit low from that sort of an angle.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Absolute nonsense, it goes through his hands:



Of course the outfield players shouldn't be scythed through on the counter like they were, but a league two standard keeper has to be saving a shot like that.

Agree completely, word on the street is that Max’s agent had courted longer term offers/ much better wage PE before the end of last season. We could match one element appropriately but not both.

Harvey shouldn’t be learning his trade at this level with a club in jeopardy of relegation, not his fault and I doubt he was brought here to be the number one.

Quoted from Chrisblor

Absolute nonsense, it goes through his hands:



Of course the outfield players shouldn't be scythed through on the counter like they were, but a league two standard keeper has to be saving a shot like that.

I said at that time you could see where that ball was aimed and a more experienced keeper runs out to close the gap, then makes himself big, something Peter Schmeichel was an absolute master at

Quoted from toontown

I thought we had some particularly poor performances yesterday, Cartwright obviously but also it was tharmes worse game in a town shirt, terrible clearance giving the opportunity for the second goal and continually giving the ball away when attempting long passes upfield. Even his long throws were worse than normal although that might have been just good defending from Wrexham.

Hume was poor as well, holohan and green were anonymous and Wilson and obikwu offered nothing at all albeit they were feeding on scraps. Thompson motm for me and the subs improved us a bit bar Pyke but Wrexham were in cruise control by then anyway.

Wrexham barely had to get in 2nd gear to beat us.

I can't believe some people want Cartwright to stay next year, he's an adequate back up keeper I.e. emergency option and that's it. Eastwood isn't even that really but we are stuck with him for another year so we need a proper GK bringing in in the summer. In time cartwright will be good but that's in a few years and he isn't even our player anyway so we'd be accepting current mediocrity to improve another teams player.

We really missed rose today although I can't see it wouldve changed the ultimate outcome of the match.

Agree with all that, up to the points about the keepers.
Not at all sure what to conclude about their relative merits.
We were poor defensively and our retention/use of the ball was dreadful. Really, really poor. Way bigger issues than the keeper position in my view.