Shambolic performance. Out fought. No pride, no passion from any of them. Spineless bunch of players
The new manager cannot be Shaun Pearson or Ben Davies. He also needs to be a miracle worker because this bunch of players are a half arsed bunch of cowards
Why do we need to move fast? A difference of a few weeks won't matter. It's more important to make the right decision than quickly make the wrong one.
Because once we tumble into the relegation zone, it’s very hard to get out. Much harder to attract players in January but also to attract a manager. Confidence wise, it’ll send us rock bottom. We can’t afford to gift points away.
We need a new manager and a new coaching set up I'll wager.
Seeing these players close up and "coaching" them for months and they had no more idea how to get a tune out of them than Hurst.
What was apparent for most of the season is that this group of players have not gelled at all. January is going to be very interesting and we are going to have to take a financial hit to make sure we survive.
This bunch of players need to take a long hard look at their selves, no passion,no commitment,long diagonal balls just do not work! There's a potential new manager looking at these players and as a player they should be certainly worried about their futures!! Very disappointed - not one player stood up to the situation and proved a point that Hurst was the problem within the dressing room etc.. nearly all these players should be looking for a new club come January with that performance considering the circumstances
This bunch of players need to take a long hard look at their selves, no passion,no commitment,long diagonal balls just do not work! There's a potential new manager looking at these players and as a player they should be certainly worried about their futures!! Very disappointed - not one player stood up to the situation and proved a point that Hurst was the problem within the dressing room etc.. nearly all these players should be looking for a new club come January with that performance considering the circumstances
Hard to disagree. As a squad they should be soul searching and grappling with shame. Some look as *rsed as they do competent, sadly. Such a crying shame to see all the pre season positivity and togetherness killed by this bunch.!
God BD blaming the pitch for our failings. They're pro footballs, juwt because they're on a pitxh where the ball travells a little bit quicker shouldn't result in a performance like that.
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We need a new manager and a new coaching set up I'll wager.
Seeing these players close up and "coaching" them for months and they had no more idea how to get a tune out of them than Hurst.
What was apparent for most of the season is that this group of players have not gelled at all. January is going to be very interesting and we are going to have to take a financial hit to make sure we survive.
I fully agree. In his interview Ben Davies, even though he was asked several times, still couldn't come out and say we were crap blaming the pitch.
I would hope a new manager brings in a new support team.
I fully agree. In his interview Ben Davies, even though he was asked several times, still couldn't come out and say we were crap blaming the pitch.
I would hope a new manager brings in a new support team.
Pre match interview, Stockwood announced that the head of recruitment is helping identify the manager. That’s possibly the most worrying thing that’s come out of his mouth since 1878 took over.
We need a new manager and a new coaching set up I'll wager.
Seeing these players close up and "coaching" them for months and they had no more idea how to get a tune out of them than Hurst.
What was apparent for most of the season is that this group of players have not gelled at all. January is going to be very interesting and we are going to have to take a financial hit to make sure we survive.
1878 will know that - and the cost of relegation if we don’t invest. The list for Jan seems to be growing though.
Do we move Khan, Eisa and Pyke on? Bring in a proper touchine hugging winger with pace and a big front man?
I don’t know what the feck we do at full back. We are not going to replace all 4. Maybe if we get a good wide right player, Mullarkey might do a good enough job. If Clifton goes back to the left midfield that might shore up that side of Glennon returns to form. We certainly need a CB - need to find a loanee as good as Smith.
Pre match interview, Stockwood announced that the head of recruitment is helping identify the manager. That’s possibly the most worrying thing that’s come out of his mouth since 1878 took over.
Because once we tumble into the relegation zone, it’s very hard to get out. Much harder to attract players in January but also to attract a manager. Confidence wise, it’ll send us rock bottom. We can’t afford to gift points away.
Sorry that still doesn't justify a quick decision, just for the sake of making a decision. The wrong appointment will see us do that anyway.
Watched on telly but I watched today hoping to see a reaction and a positive attitude to try and build some confidence. Didn’t get either. Slough got a good result but it wasn’t a typical cup performance from them where they’ve raised their game and if anything we sunk to theirs.
Very worrying for us. We’re in a horrible position where we need absolutely the right choice of manager but also can’t afford to take too long in appointing them.
1878 need to move quickly that is a shocking result but the performance was worse than the result SP and BD did nothing different to the last 6 weeks. That rules them out and personally I'd clear the decks we need a complete refit and this recruitment expert is worse than the fishy posters. Sort it out
Pre match interview, Stockwood announced that the head of recruitment is helping identify the manager. That’s possibly the most worrying thing that’s come out of his mouth since 1878 took over.
I didn't hear that but considering the state of the current squad, if the recruitment manager was involved in the signing of most of this squad then he should be given a P45 as well.
Sadly a corporate excrement out passing the buck to a head of recruitment.
I didn't hear that but considering the state of the current squad, if the recruitment manager was involved in the signing of most of this squad then he should be given a P45 as well.
Sadly a corporate excrement out passing the buck to a head of recruitment.
Something along the lines of Joe’s doing a great job helping us sift through the applications, Matt Dean questioned whether he was suitably qualified to do so. It’s in the pre match on Humberside between 1.25 and 1.40.
Hurst had put together a non league squad by the look at it and it has been looking like it for months . Too interested in how they get on { after you sir dear friend } Instead of players with some guts and determination , The cash from our cup run has been wasted and we look no where near repeating it with this shower
God BD blaming the pitch for our failings. They're pro footballs, juwt because they're on a pitxh where the ball travells a little bit quicker shouldn't result in a performance like that.
Yeah more of the same this is the reason neither of these two need to be part of the management team.
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...at Amersham. Good for first 15 ,pinging it around, n then completely lost the plot for the next 30.scott davies superb free kick, n later cleared 1 off the line, whilst slough also hit the post. We were awful, n like someone said Conteh n Eisa have lost all their confidence. Kieran Green coming on at h.t. made all the difference and I'd say he was motm for us even tho he only played 45. Took responsibility, asked for the ball n, surprisingly, passed the ball really well. We were on top for almost the whole 2nd half, without creating too many chances, although Andrew's did hit the post with a good free kick. The goal was a good bit of play between wilson, efete n rose.. slough were out on their feet for the last 15-20, but still managed to cause us problems. Came away v. Relieved we got a draw. Think Jason needs to accelerate the appointment process!
Is this the same head of recruitment who identified these players,Jesus wept.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day,teach a man to fish and you give him an excuse for him to escape from the wife and kids for the weekend and drink lots of beer.
I read this morning on Twitter someone saying Hurst just signed the players he wanted anyway, and disregarded the recruitment lad. Although no doubt it was pure speculation it might make more sense as he knew most of them from previous clubs didn't he? In any event I think it's a waste of a wage, to be honest. I can't believe any manager or potential manager doesn't have a list of players he would like to bring to a club and the idea that a recruitment guy at a league 2 club will unearth a gem that nobody else knows about sounds fanciful to me.
God BD blaming the pitch for our failings. They're pro footballs, juwt because they're on a pitxh where the ball travells a little bit quicker shouldn't result in a performance like that.
Would not had a chance playing football back in the day when pitches looked like ploughed fields and a football weighing the same as a medicine ball (younger fans will have to google to understand).
God BD blaming the pitch for our failings. They're pro footballs, juwt because they're on a pitxh where the ball travells a little bit quicker shouldn't result in a performance like that.
Would not had a chance playing football back in the day when pitches looked like ploughed fields and a football weighing the same as a medicine ball (younger fans will have to google to understand).
Some serious knicker wetting going on. Was always going to be a tough game, started brightly then struggled when they brought the game to us.
Did well 2nd half to force a replay, thought the subs did well. Green gave us a bit of steel and the ball stuck with Pyke quite well.
I thought Andrews was the real weak link throughout and was surprised he was the only starting midfielder to remain on the pitch, he's so easily brushed off the ball and lacking a bit of heart. We missed Holohan and we are clearly a bit fragile in the confidence department as well. Pleased to see Glennon get on because he is so attacking and has quality. We know all about cup upsets and have avoided being on the end of one at least for now.
All this sacking the coaching staff nonsense is balderdash. None of you calling for that know any more than the next fan about the standard of the coaches. We've already sacked the manager so let's see who else we can point the finger at.
Some serious knicker wetting going on. Was always going to be a tough game, started brightly then struggled when they brought the game to us.
Did well 2nd half to force a replay, thought the subs did well. Green gave us a bit of steel and the ball stuck with Pyke quite well.
I thought Andrews was the real weak link throughout and was surprised he was the only starting midfielder to remain on the pitch, he's so easily brushed off the ball and lacking a bit of heart. We missed Holohan and we are clearly a bit fragile in the confidence department as well. Pleased to see Glennon get on because he is so attacking and has quality. We know all about cup upsets and have avoided being on the end of one at least for now.
All this sacking the coaching staff nonsense is balderdash. None of you calling for that know any more than the next fan about the standard of the coaches. We've already sacked the manager so let's see who else we can point the finger at.
Are you seriously not concerned about the complete inability to make three or four consecutive passes? The fact we needed a non league clogger (Green) to galvanise us is a damning indictment of how excrement we are.
We’ve got to think that this was one of sloughs biggest ever games so we were going to be against a team who were seriously up for it . We dodged a bullet so let’s be grateful for that . We could’ve easily been humiliated today bud we weren’t. Nobody will remember this 1-1 in a few weeks.
Are you seriously not concerned about the complete inability to make three or four consecutive passes? The fact we needed a non league clogger (Green) to galvanise us is a damning indictment of how excrement we are.
I'd like to think Green is a bit more effective than that and certainly was today. Of course everyone is concerned, but blindly calling for the sacking of coaching staff is moronic.
Amazes me that someone started a rumour saying one/some of the players’d had a bust up with Doig. Could you picture anyone in this squad squaring up to Doig? Barely a set of bøllocks between the lot of them, most look scared of their own shadow.
I read this morning on Twitter someone saying Hurst just signed the players he wanted anyway, and disregarded the recruitment lad. Although no doubt it was pure speculation it might make more sense as he knew most of them from previous clubs didn't he? In any event I think it's a waste of a wage, to be honest. I can't believe any manager or potential manager doesn't have a list of players he would like to bring to a club and the idea that a recruitment guy at a league 2 club will unearth a gem that nobody else knows about sounds fanciful to me.
Eastwood, Eisa and Gnahoua had already played under Hurst.
Vernam we apparently tried to sign both last summer and in January (before Hutchinson came in) and we also tried to sign Malerkey in January.
I get the feeling that Hurst was old school in the fact that he liked to see players and went on his own eye.
I'd like to think Green is a bit more effective than that and certainly was today. Of course everyone is concerned, but blindly calling for the sacking of coaching staff is moronic.
Why?
We've been crap for most of this season so far so what the frig are we paying the coaching staff for?
We were trying to play a certain way in the first half. It didn’t work. Not enough urgency.
Slough goal . He will never score another like that in his lifetime
Second half disappointment but Green and Glennon did well. Others I won’t name did not.
Please bear in mind the guts of the management team has been ripped out. I am old , but the younger men need time to feel wanted in an ever changing management structure
We were trying to play a certain way in the first half. It didn’t work. Not enough urgency. Slough goal . He will never score another like that in his lifetime
Second half disappointment but Green and Glennon did well. Others I won’t name did not.
Please bear in mind the guts of the management team has been ripped out. I am old , but the younger men need time to feel wanted in an ever changing management structure
I’ll take 1-1 thank you
lmfao. Scott has scored those sort of goals throughout his career. Wish we had someone of his ability in our midfield
Whilst still being in control and managing to say an awful lot without actually saying much at all, it was quite a spikey interview. Twice was snappy with Matt Dean for asking reasonable questions.
I read this morning on Twitter someone saying Hurst just signed the players he wanted anyway, and disregarded the recruitment lad. Although no doubt it was pure speculation it might make more sense as he knew most of them from previous clubs didn't he? In any event I think it's a waste of a wage, to be honest. I can't believe any manager or potential manager doesn't have a list of players he would like to bring to a club and the idea that a recruitment guy at a league 2 club will unearth a gem that nobody else knows about sounds fanciful to me.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was true. Hurst always thought that recruitment analysts were a waste of time and money. I was surprised we appointed one with him in charge. Maybe the happy family image wasn't as happy as they made out...
He actually said in a pre-season video that most of the players signed were ones he'd had an eye on for a long time. The exception was Conteh - who he did say was unearthed by Joe Hutchinson.
All I saw was a team shot of confidence. I have seen enough of this season to see we have had passages of play where we have looked half decent. Clearly Pearson and Davies havent managed to install it - especially picking more or less the same team. There is a team in there somewhere - it just needs a someone to build it back and that cant come soon enough.
Some serious knicker wetting going on. Was always going to be a tough game, started brightly then struggled when they brought the game to us.
Did well 2nd half to force a replay, thought the subs did well. Green gave us a bit of steel and the ball stuck with Pyke quite well.
I thought Andrews was the real weak link throughout and was surprised he was the only starting midfielder to remain on the pitch, he's so easily brushed off the ball and lacking a bit of heart. We missed Holohan and we are clearly a bit fragile in the confidence department as well. Pleased to see Glennon get on because he is so attacking and has quality. We know all about cup upsets and have avoided being on the end of one at least for now.
All this sacking the coaching staff nonsense is balderdash. None of you calling for that know any more than the next fan about the standard of the coaches. We've already sacked the manager so let's see who else we can point the finger at.
Exactly this , settle down and let the new management pair have go at sorting it out .
I do think there is a degree of speed required for the appointment. A few weeks is maybe 3/4 league games by which point we’ll have played 20ish games. A new manager will need a few weeks to get settled, assess his squad, draw up targets for his next window. This would all need to be done in the busiest, most frantic month for fixtures.
It obviously has to be the right appointment but it doesn’t really add up that this has been thought about for a few weeks.
5 3 2 please. Or 4231 and actually have conteh and hunt infront of the back 4. 1 doing the grafting and tackling, 1 getting the ball moving forward (although Conteh can also do that)
1 thing I noticed and it happens alot, the movement off the ball is dreadful. Noone looking to get into little pockets between the defence and midfield
We’ve got to think that this was one of sloughs biggest ever games so we were going to be against a team who were seriously up for it . We dodged a bullet so let’s be grateful for that . We could’ve easily been humiliated today bud we weren’t. Nobody will remember this 1-1 in a few weeks.
Scraping a draw against Slough is pretty humiliating in itself. We hardly touched them. Awful.
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I'm sorry but anybody watching that and not accepting the role the pitch played in Town's below par performance must have the blinkers well and truly in place. The bounce is so unpredictable that it puts even the steadiest player on edge. Last similar incident was away at Bromley in 2021 where the same thing affected Town and even more badly (and that wasn't a struggling team). I suppose I was being a bit optimistic expecting fans that in very recent history have seen the "magic of the cup" from the positive side to understand that our opponents had literally nothing to lose-playing in front of that grounds highest ever crowd and that the F.A. Cup has a very long history of not only giving but taking away. Having said that, the performance in the first half can only partly be excused. We were abysmal from 2-11. (I'm excluding Cartwright who because of his team mates static viewing of the free kick couldn't be expected to get anywhere near such a great effort. He also pulled off a fantastic save from a goal bound header) There was no positive, rapid forward play. We invite pressure that in our players current state of low confidence we definitely do not need to attempt playing out from the back. The second half was markedly better. I smiled at the comments on this thread saying management-wise it was more of the same. I"m a self confirmed fan of Paul Hurst but I cannot imagine in my wildest dreams him making the substitution bringing Green and Glennon into the game when Davies and Pearson did and in such a change of plan. I'll concede that Glennon's delivery could have been better but a tiring Slough team couldn't deal with the increase in tempo. Criticism of Green's apparent non-league ability is profoundly unfair. His presence and workrate would currently be enough for me to start him every game. Certainly not much got past him today and it freed up the rest of the midfield to be more progressive. The goal was great. Great ball from Michee and a proper strikers finish from Rose. We live to fight another day whhich is more than can be said for teams of far higher standing than us aftet quite frankly a typically bizarre weekend of rrsults.
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What Town need is a great big dose of what those Cray Valley players have had... Its character what is missing at Grimsby and the fact that our players are not willing to give it all for the cause that is letting them down. Those Cray Valley players would run through brick walls for the cause and that is something our players would not do.... Football is a simple game and what makes you a better player is the sheer effort you.are prepared to put in to make the difference between winning and losing. Look at our promotion games at Notts County and Wrexham, it was the fact we would not give in until the final whistle that made us winners. This team does not have it yet but might do under the right leadership and lets hope we get that right or its back to non league for a very long time...
I'm sorry but anybody watching that and not accepting the role the pitch played in Town's below par performance must have the blinkers well and truly in place. The bounce is so unpredictable that it puts even the steadiest player on edge. Last similar incident was away at Bromley in 2021 where the same thing affected Town and even more badly (and that wasn't a struggling team). I suppose I was being a bit optimistic expecting fans that in very recent history have seen the "magic of the cup" from the positive side to understand that our opponents had literally nothing to lose-playing in front of that grounds highest ever crowd and that the F.A. Cup has a very long history of not only giving but taking away. Having said that, the performance in the first half can only partly be excused. We were abysmal from 2-11. (I'm excluding Cartwright who because of his team mates static viewing of the free kick couldn't be expected to get anywhere near such a great effort. He also pulled off a fantastic save from a goal bound header) There was no positive, rapid forward play. We invite pressure that in our players current state of low confidence we definitely do not need to attempt playing out from the back. The second half was markedly better. I smiled at the comments on this thread saying management-wise it was more of the same. I"m a self confirmed fan of Paul Hurst but I cannot imagine in my wildest dreams him making the substitution bringing Green and Glennon into the game when Davies and Pearson did and in such a change of plan. I'll concede that Glennon's delivery could have been better but a tiring Slough team couldn't deal with the increase in tempo. Criticism of Green's apparent non-league ability is profoundly unfair. His presence and workrate would currently be enough for me to start him every game. Certainly not much got past him today and it freed up the rest of the midfield to be more progressive. The goal was great. Great ball from Michee and a proper strikers finish from Rose. We live to fight another day whhich is more than can be said for teams of far higher standing than us aftet quite frankly a typically bizarre weekend of rrsults.
Good post agree with pretty much all of that.. bit concerned with the over reaction to today
He actually said in a pre-season video that most of the players signed were ones he'd had an eye on for a long time. The exception was Conteh - who he did say was unearthed by Joe Hutchinson.
Yeah Eastwood was his keeper before, that's why he's picked him Cartwright was known to croudson for a long time I seem to think, that's the connection there. Mularkey Hurst tried to sign before we even got the recruitment guy in. Rodgers I'm not sure. Gnouha was hursts before. Vernham has been chased by Hurst for ages before the recruitment guy. Eisa was hursts before Andrews is a young lad, not much of a career to speak of before his loan. Ainley not sure Rose Wilson and pyke not sure.
Conteh was defo the recruitment guys signing.
At least half the signings were probably nothing to do with the recruitment fella, but it's quite possible that was the case with a lot more than half.
We were crap today, absolutely shite. However there’s some big overreactions off the back of it, cup upsets happen all over the shop and today wasn’t one of them. The pitch looked like bloody concrete and it played right into their hands.
These are the same players who put in good performances early in the season and I’ve no doubt there’s some very good players there, today hasn’t changed that despite how they played.
As for the slating Joe Hutchinson has had, the guy has had jobs at England, Lincoln (during probably their best ever period) & Hull (also during theirs). He’s got a fantastic pedigree and to slate him based on how Hurst has used some of those players is so far off the mark IMO.
Stockwoods comments have been taken out of context too. Who knew that our head of recruitment might get involved in some recruitment? He said he’s helping to sift through cvs whilst one of the most connected people in football, Jennings, has a big hand in the recruitment.
A crap performance but we’ve got the replay, the reaction that we’re now national league bound off the back of it is a bit far.
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All good points I’d say, but I really felt the performance was cr@p. First half especially terrible. It’s not as if we were even playing a spirited, half decent team. Say what you like about the pitch - fair enough, but we were absolutely awful for the most part. Lumping the ball hopefully, passing it carelessly half the time, exerting zero pressure, not moving off the ball, not showing any technical skill or passion or cohesion. I don’t think we should hide from it. We were cr*p in almost every regard for almost all the game, barring the odd moment - the equaliser, the free kick that hit the bar……
I'm sorry but anybody watching that and not accepting the role the pitch played in Town's below par performance must have the blinkers well and truly in place. The bounce is so unpredictable that it puts even the steadiest player on edge. Last similar incident was away at Bromley in 2021 where the same thing affected Town and even more badly (and that wasn't a struggling team). I suppose I was being a bit optimistic expecting fans that in very recent history have seen the "magic of the cup" from the positive side to understand that our opponents had literally nothing to lose-playing in front of that grounds highest ever crowd and that the F.A. Cup has a very long history of not only giving but taking away. Having said that, the performance in the first half can only partly be excused. We were abysmal from 2-11. (I'm excluding Cartwright who because of his team mates static viewing of the free kick couldn't be expected to get anywhere near such a great effort. He also pulled off a fantastic save from a goal bound header) There was no positive, rapid forward play. We invite pressure that in our players current state of low confidence we definitely do not need to attempt playing out from the back. The second half was markedly better. I smiled at the comments on this thread saying management-wise it was more of the same. I"m a self confirmed fan of Paul Hurst but I cannot imagine in my wildest dreams him making the substitution bringing Green and Glennon into the game when Davies and Pearson did and in such a change of plan. I'll concede that Glennon's delivery could have been better but a tiring Slough team couldn't deal with the increase in tempo. Criticism of Green's apparent non-league ability is profoundly unfair. His presence and workrate would currently be enough for me to start him every game. Certainly not much got past him today and it freed up the rest of the midfield to be more progressive. The goal was great. Great ball from Michee and a proper strikers finish from Rose. We live to fight another day whhich is more than can be said for teams of far higher standing than us aftet quite frankly a typically bizarre weekend of rrsults.
I certainly wasn’t criticising Green when I referred to him as an exceptional NL player, (maybe should have been “NL”), I’d also be starting him every game atm - I’ve a hunch we might get more out Conteh with Green alongside although they were swapped today.
We can’t have any passengers and Eisa seems like one currently, maybe Harry out to the left and Gnahoua on the right with Conteh further forward. Don’t know how long Gav is out for
We were well below par again today, I think whoever comes in is going to have a hell of a job on their hands to get this team playing. What I will say is though, it was disappointing to see Rose getting abuse from one supporter during the game, he took it well to be fair to him, but of all the players to single out for criticism I think Rose would be quite low down my list to be honest.
Can I just say that Glennon didn’t exactly look like a player who had just come back from injury. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
I assume ur referring to the rumour of Glennon having an altercation with one of the management team and after that pretty much the wheels came off . I heard the same rumour in fact I’ve heard a few versions and tbh it would explain a lot
Amazes me that someone started a rumour saying one/some of the players’d had a bust up with Doig. Could you picture anyone in this squad squaring up to Doig? Barely a set of bøllocks between the lot of them, most look scared of their own shadow.
Well, we didn't lose. A none repeatable free kick flew in, and Davies the scorer (Player Manager) won't have to pay for his beer for a while, and good luck to him. The worries. The free header clipping our post shows we are marking poorly, the poor freekicks going long or short is something we cannot blame on the pitch, and I'm baffled how they can be so rubbish. But the team didn't seem to want to engage with the opposition, which is a worry. Cliffton wasn't happy until he got his trophy Yellow. I watched the match via Bet365 which had no commentary only the stadiun sound so no "proffessional" commentator input, so my view isn't tainted. But I'm less worried about the Morecambe match (compared to when watching Donny) because we stopped/slowed the decline and hence a bit of optimism. Fans are allowed optimism in the face of reality. UTM
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Alright, with a good night's sleep and the perspective of a couple of other games being worse results for better teams than us....
1st half was awful, or it was after about 10-15 minutes. We looked ok at the start (just ok) and they didn't get near our goal. Their first decent attack seemed to shake us to the core and it's difficult to know why, it didn't come to anything. They then scored a worldy and we lost all semblance of control.
2nd half was better, we had more control and longish spells of pressure that could have produced a couple more goals with better finishing.
Substitutions were positive and attack minded. Green had an impact, Hunt less so.
Crosses were better, not great but better. A big No. 9 might have caused chaos.
Rose and Wilson look like a strike pairing but aren't played together, why?
I have 3 major concerns:
1. The fight/graft of some (not all!) players, they're just not prepared to battle. 2. Lack of pass completion with relatively easy passes and the choices some players make to hit long passes through traffic when shorter, easier passes are on. Both lose possession (and using the pitch as an excuse, come on! These are professional footballers). 3. The unwillingness of wide players to take players on, get into a crossing position and get the ball into a danger area - the first time Michee did it we scored!
Finally, Eisa. A couple of times we lost posession on the far side and Eisa had to drop back into midfield to cover. He did it looking like a schoolboy who had to tidy his bedroom and at the same speed. Drop him and bring Khan in. His attitude is a problem - you're not Ronaldo son and you don't play for Man City, f*cking dig in.
I think our problems can be fixed but it will take some work on the training ground and some straight talking to some players.
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Good post agree with pretty much all of that.. bit concerned with the over reaction to today
Overreaction!! We were 15 minutes away from being beat by a part time team 2 Leagues below us. And don't give me any b0ll0cks about the pitch, they are professional football players, and should be able to adapt. It's simply not good enough.
Overreaction!! We were 15 minutes away from being beat by a part time team 2 Leagues below us. And don't give me any b0ll0cks about the pitch, they are professional football players, and should be able to adapt. It's simply not good enough.
Besides having a tantrum on The Fishy, what is your point exactly?
We were crap today, absolutely shite. However there’s some big overreactions off the back of it, cup upsets happen all over the shop and today wasn’t one of them. The pitch looked like bloody concrete and it played right into their hands.
These are the same players who put in good performances early in the season and I’ve no doubt there’s some very good players there, today hasn’t changed that despite how they played.
As for the slating Joe Hutchinson has had, the guy has had jobs at England, Lincoln (during probably their best ever period) & Hull (also during theirs). He’s got a fantastic pedigree and to slate him based on how Hurst has used some of those players is so far off the mark IMO.
Stockwoods comments have been taken out of context too. Who knew that our head of recruitment might get involved in some recruitment? He said he’s helping to sift through cvs whilst one of the most connected people in football, Jennings, has a big hand in the recruitment.
A crap performance but we’ve got the replay, the reaction that we’re now national league bound off the back of it is a bit far.
I imagine they get loads of cvs in from people who have played championship manager or managed the dog and duck. i suspect hes probably sifting those out so as not to waste the owners time as any organisation would. He clearly wont be having the final say.
I get it that Cartwright is too far over to the other side but Amos and Andrews don't leave a flipping motorway lane size gap and physically turn away from the ball then that effort doesn't even get near the goal.
I get it that Cartwright is too far over to the other side but Amos and Andrews don't leave a flipping motorway lane size gap and physically turn away from the ball then that effort doesn't even get near the goal.
Weak.
I blamed the wall at the time. Can’t remember which post, but the wall was dreadful
I get it that Cartwright is too far over to the other side but Amos and Andrews don't leave a flipping motorway lane size gap and physically turn away from the ball then that effort doesn't even get near the goal.
I get it that Cartwright is too far over to the other side but Amos and Andrews don't leave a flipping motorway lane size gap and physically turn away from the ball then that effort doesn't even get near the goal.
Weak.
Watching the stream and that was my view. Shocking wall setup, it split and all but one didn't want to jump. Don't want to judge the caretake team on one game but another management team of ex-defenders that seem unable to train them in the defensive basics.
Watching the stream and that was my view. Shocking wall setup, it split and all but one didn't want to jump. Don't want to judge the caretake team on one game but another management team of ex-defenders that seem unable to train them in the defensive basics.
Exactly. Setting up to defend a free kick should be one of the very basics. This season our defending has been woeful and yet the management team and coaching staff are almost all former defenders. I think we need a serious upgrade in that department.
Ah, I'm not blaming any coaches or managers for that.
It's absolute basics. I can't believe we're at the stage of needing to tell players that you need to stand next to each other on a defensive wall and then not jump out the way of the ball.
You can have the best coaches in the world but when players are ignoring the absolute fundamentals you've got no hope.
You need to go back to school sonny, as you obviously don't understand plain English.
Well yes I understood the central point of your Tantrum it was a err a Tantrum. I'm just saying, have you nothing to add to the discussion or is it stamping your feet, Violet Elizabeth Bott like that turns you on.?
I get it that Cartwright is too far over to the other side but Amos and Andrews don't leave a flipping motorway lane size gap and physically turn away from the ball then that effort doesn't even get near the goal.
Weak.
I agree with you. When a wall is put up you expect defenders to stand their ground and not move ( Upwards is ok ). They left a gap and the ball went through it. The ball should not have got passed the wall.
You can please some of the forumites some of the time but not all the forumites all of the time
I blamed the wall at the time. Can’t remember which post, but the wall was dreadful
Surely the whole idea of the wall is to mask one side of the goal and the GK can then concentrate on a smaller area. Our wall was (L to R) 3+1+1 i.e. a gap between man 3 and 4, and then 5. Porous wall. The ball flew between 3 and 4 at head height with little or no bend required. Poor wall, GK had no chance. I just think that our team underestimated the "part timers" not thinking that these teams are peppered with some players who have played at a higher level. What is unforgivable it the free header that hit the post. But still, the good news is we didn't lose and fight another day. UTM
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