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So, I think it's time to collate all the excellent information in this and other threads into an informative email which can be sent to PH and co in order to let them know where they are going wrong.

Most agree on Eastwood as goalie, so no problem there Paul, but the full back situation needs some serious attention. Mullarkey is either good going forward, not very good defensively, or good defensively, but not going forward, depending on which fishy-ite you care to favour. Glennon may as well be sent out on loan/put on the transfer list/sold for dog meat, whichever is the most expedient. Efete is too right footed and Amos is out in the cold, so a new left back by the weekend please Paul.

Waterfall is dogged but a bit old school, so Mullarkey could shuffle across to centre back, his true position, to partner the faultless Rodgers, leaving boo boy Efete to reclaim his right back slot.

Now midfield. No problem with Conteh, apart from he may be gone for millions in Jan, so we need to be looking for a replacement now. Hunt is vastly over rated and most fans can't understand why we paid a fee and gave him a 3 year deal. Ditto Vernam. What were you thinking? Clifton is always playing in the wrong position. Doesn't matter where you play him, a group of fans think he should be elsewhere.

Strike force? Forget it mate, useless to a man. No movement, no height, no penetration, no pace, no vision and always receiving the ball too far back down the pitch, with their backs to goal and nowhere to go. Rose is the pick of the bunch, but he has to do so much work, he is blowing out of his ar$e by 60 mins.

So we have a spine of sorts. Eastwood, Rodgers, Conteh and Rose. The rest leave a lot to be desired and can be moved around and replaced ad infinitum until you luckily chance upon a sort of winning formula. You'll get the hang of it if you stick at it long enough.

As for tactics; well this is the biggest sticking point. You somehow manage to be a tinker man, without actually changing the personnel, have no set pattern of play, and no plan B. When you do decide to do something, it's too late and only ever like for like, so how the hell can we be expected to beat every single side we play against?

I really don't know how you managed to get where you did in football, but worry not, the fans have all the answers, if you would just listen to all the free advice form office workers, bus drivers and insurance salesmen etc.

Alternatively, we could just accept that football teams lose games, and sometimes other teams are better than your team.


Funnily enough, through irony you have summed up our shortcomings perfectly!

To be fair every forum in the country is discussing their teams failings unless they have won their first two games  and even if they have in some cases!
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Made a couple of decent saves but I've replayed the 2nd goal a number of times with the hope that it gets better...it's a bad one. He's 2 yards off his line when it deflects. I doubt he'll be too happy with the 3rd either


You seriously blaming him for the second? He’s set properly for the shot and the deflection kills him, nothing he could’ve done better for it.


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He wasn’t at fault for the third one either. The midfielder who let him have a free run in to the box is.
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You seriously blaming him for the second? He’s set properly for the shot and the deflection kills him, nothing he could’ve done better for it.


It was a cross. Not denying it's a nasty one but he looks slow to get off the ground, for me. When you look at his starting position and the pace of the ball I'm certain he'll be disappointed to not at least get a hand to it. Call it a lazy comparison but I think Crocombe gets it, perhaps simply by virtue of a few extra inches in height/reach
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It was a cross. Not denying it's a nasty one but he looks slow to get off the ground, for me. When you look at his starting position and the pace of the ball I'm certain he'll be disappointed to not at least get a hand to it. Call it a lazy comparison but I think Crocombe gets it, perhaps simply by virtue of a few extra inches in height/reach


If Crocombe has a few extra inches in height over Eastwood, he must be about 7 foot tall.
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Having watched the highlights, Vernam actually plays a part in both goals  


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Funnily enough, through irony you have summed up our shortcomings perfectly!

To be fair every forum in the country is discussing their teams failings unless they have won their first two games  and even if they have in some cases!


Just trying to put a light hearted spin on it, but the doom mongers will doom, and the more pragmatic will shrug their shoulders and look to the next game.
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Quoted from ginnywings
So, I think it's time to collate all the excellent information in this and other threads into an informative email which can be sent to PH and co in order to let them know where they are going wrong.

Most agree on Eastwood as goalie, so no problem there Paul, but the full back situation needs some serious attention. Mullarkey is either good going forward, not very good defensively, or good defensively, but not going forward, depending on which fishy-ite you care to favour. Glennon may as well be sent out on loan/put on the transfer list/sold for dog meat, whichever is the most expedient. Efete is too right footed and Amos is out in the cold, so a new left back by the weekend please Paul.

Waterfall is dogged but a bit old school, so Mullarkey could shuffle across to centre back, his true position, to partner the faultless Rodgers, leaving boo boy Efete to reclaim his right back slot.

Now midfield. No problem with Conteh, apart from he may be gone for millions in Jan, so we need to be looking for a replacement now. Hunt is vastly over rated and most fans can't understand why we paid a fee and gave him a 3 year deal. Ditto Vernam. What were you thinking? Clifton is always playing in the wrong position. Doesn't matter where you play him, a group of fans think he should be elsewhere.

Strike force? Forget it mate, useless to a man. No movement, no height, no penetration, no pace, no vision and always receiving the ball too far back down the pitch, with their backs to goal and nowhere to go. Rose is the pick of the bunch, but he has to do so much work, he is blowing out of his ar$e by 60 mins.

So we have a spine of sorts. Eastwood, Rodgers, Conteh and Rose. The rest leave a lot to be desired and can be moved around and replaced ad infinitum until you luckily chance upon a sort of winning formula. You'll get the hang of it if you stick at it long enough.

As for tactics; well this is the biggest sticking point. You somehow manage to be a tinker man, without actually changing the personnel, have no set pattern of play, and no plan B. When you do decide to do something, it's too late and only ever like for like, so how the hell can we be expected to beat every single side we play against?

I really don't know how you managed to get where you did in football, but worry not, the fans have all the answers, if you would just listen to all the free advice form office workers, bus drivers and insurance salesmen etc.

Alternatively, we could just accept that football teams lose games, and sometimes other teams are better than your team.


You got it in one though of your acceptable four Rose is provisionally ok only pending further scrutiny in the two home games this week
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All their goals came from having a wide man who could cross a ball....the first a big deflection admittedly but the whip and power initially creates the spin and dip.that beat Eastwood..the second goal...Jones had about a yard of space and still got an inch perfect cross which Eastwood initially cleared the header but that was followed up with a cross back in that picked out Bostock....the third goal..they must have had 8 passes completely unchallenged by us before Jones mugged Mularkey and again fired over a beauty....people trying to blame Eastwood or even Efete who actually had three players around him to consider are off their heads.
We only really got behind them a few times and most of those came down our left second half ....and due to our lack of left footed players we didn't get close to putting a cross in anything like the quality they were delivering.


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Quoted from sam gy
Having watched the highlights, Vernam actually plays a part in both goals  


Generous in the extreme to claim he played a part in the first one. He closed down the opposition in our own half which is literally the bare minimum I would expect from any professional player. It was a catastrophic error on their part, nothing to do with our play.
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