Ukraine War

Quoted from Humbercod

FFS don’t they teach history at school anyone?

As for Blair there is a reason he’s hated on a Jimmy Saville scale in this country and it can be found in an inquiry called the Chilcot report. And heres the thing it was released after his last term, running out of patience with you now you’re as thick as mince.

I’m not so sure Blair is hated on that scale. No more so than people hate Johnson or Thatcher.

Nobody disagrees that he’s a war criminal but I think your assessment of him being hated is inaccurate. You’re assuming that the majority of folk will have read and digested the Chilcot report, unlikely and of the last two years has proved anything, people will swallow anything given to them.

Quoted from aldi_01

I’m not so sure Blair is hated on that scale. No more so than people hate Johnson or Thatcher.

Nobody disagrees that he’s a war criminal but I think your assessment of him being hated is inaccurate. You’re assuming that the majority of folk will have read and digested the Chilcot report, unlikely and of the last two years has proved anything, people will swallow anything given to them.

Definitely a war criminal you only have to look at the recent public reaction to his knighthood, only 14% in favour in the Independent poll says it all really, the majority of the public hate him.

Quoted from aldi_01

I’m not so sure Blair is hated on that scale. No more so than people hate Johnson or Thatcher.

Nobody disagrees that he’s a war criminal but I think your assessment of him being hated is inaccurate. You’re assuming that the majority of folk will have read and digested the Chilcot report, unlikely and of the last two years has proved anything, people will swallow anything given to them.

I don’t think he’s a war criminal.

Quoted from GollyGTFC

I don’t think he’s a war criminal.

We're all up in arms about Putin killing thousands of innocent civilians for no reason, where does that differ from Blair and Bush?

4 interesting tweets overnight





add it into that that Belarus is steadfastly refusing to commit any troops or machinery, which rather indicates that lukashenko is starting to hedge his bets

whisper it quietly, but there might just be the first signs of a turning tide....

Quoted from Humbercod

Definitely a war criminal you only have to look at the recent public reaction to his knighthood, only 14% in favour in the Independent poll says it all really, the majority of the public hate him.

All his knighthood told us is how out of touch the royal household is and how irrelevant peerages are.

People protesting about his knighthood still doesn’t mean he’s any more or less hated than Thatcher or Johnson.

F***ing Gavin Williamson got a knighthood - which tells you all you need to know about that particular process. An incompetent, inarticulate failure of a man dismissed from two cabinet posts for his performance! Everyone knows he was knighted because he knows ‘where the bodies are buried’ in relation to Johnson’s utter incompetence and transgressions. Another unarguable indicator of how this government is utterly corrupt and dishonourable.

Quoted from aldi_01

All his knighthood told us is how out of touch the royal household is and how irrelevant peerages are.

People protesting about his knighthood still doesn’t mean he’s any more or less hated than Thatcher or Johnson.

There has always been a tradition of ex PMs being given Knighthoods or made Lords (or Lady). The Tories want to give Cameron a knighthood but there was a backlog and couldn’t without cries of bias, expect Brown Cameron and May to follow Blair in the next few years.

Quoted from mariner91

We're all up in arms about Putin killing thousands of innocent civilians for no reason, where does that differ from Blair and Bush?

You can’t compare what Russia has historically done in Georgia and Syria and are doing right now in Ukraine with the toppling of Saddam Hussein.

The problem with Iraq was there was no proper plan in place with what to replace Saddam with and that caused a war between the installed coalition government and insurgencies. Bush & Blair destabilised Iraq and that led to a civil war.

If Bush and/or Blair had committed war crimes then why have neither of them been charged and tried by the ICC?

Russia has invaded a neighbour without any legitimate justification and is deliberately targeting civilians. That can be defined as a war crime under the Geneva Convention. And based on the Russian playbook of falsely accusing their enemy of doing what they themselves have done/are doing/will do, the Russians are about to use chemical weapons in Ukraine.

Quoted from mariner91

We're all up in arms about Putin killing thousands of innocent civilians for no reason, where does that differ from Blair and Bush?

I tell you where it differs, Blair and Bush created a monumental feck-up of a mess from an invasion of Iraq, that may have been illegal, but the mass death and destruction that followed was in the civil war that followed. I've no idea how many innocent civilians died at the hands of the US and UK armed forces, but they didn't deliberately kill civilians or employ ordnance on a mass scale to destroy civil buildings and kill civilians therein. At the time of the invasion the Iraqi army represented a minority ruling dictatorship that had no support from majority shia population, it surrendered or evaporated within 3 weeks, many perhaps to fight another day in a civil war in a different guise. Total feck-up, yes, creating a vacuum for Sunni's and Shias to kill each other en masse yes, illegal invasion, probably, civilian deaths from precision weapons wrongly targeted yes, a few rogue squaddies killing civilians yes, deliberate encircling of cities with artillery and attacks with air power and missiles to indiscriminately flatten cities and kill civilians therein no