Coronavirus

Quoted from Gaffer58

So what is the best thing to do now, Starmer wants a circuit breaker, Manchesters mayor will not accept them going into tier 3 and London mayor wants a lockdown.

Quoted from Ipswin

As far as the mayor of Manchester is concerned someone needs to tell him it's not a case of 'I don't want it', you've flipping got it chum and if you don't like it hand your mayoral chain and your expenses claim forms in and urine off

Starmer and the London fella I agree with 100%

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

It is such an obvious point I am shocked you cannot see it.

When we voted in December we had a choice of the unelectable Jeremy Corbyn and his disfunctional labour party, or the charismatic and electable Boris Johnson. At the time people did agree that whatever happened in the immediate future, it would indeed be worse under Labour. Labour was trounced, biggest defeat since 1935 and if Boris killed every new born till the next election Labour would still struggle to gain enough seats to form even a minority government. The red wall has been slowly eroding till it cracked big style.

A lot of the Labour family cannot stand red tory Starmer, and there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that a Prime Minister Corbyn would have fared any better than Boris in trying to sort our the covid crisis, and up to recent days the current Labour leader has agreed with just about everything the government did to tackle the virus.

Now the virus has destroyed any grand plans Boris may have had, but he is not the only world leader to be found wanting, is he?

The whole thing has been a catastrophe, we can all agree on that. Mistakes aplenty;  and all of us would do things differently, all convinced that our way, or the labour way would have been better, but all of it is purely subjective.

I have seen comments over the months of this or that country have done things better, with posters seemingly blissfully unaware of all the different scenarios facing each country. Those who were lauded initially now find the going a bit more difficult so it is a constant moving picture.

It is no good castigating people for the choice they made in December, which was a no brainer really. Those on the losing side quite rightly point out governments mistakes, and this has been magnifed hugely by covid, but none of us knew we would be gripped by a pandemic.

I have absolutely no qualms about voting Conservative at the last election; they were the only reasonable option given the choice. Come 2024 I will weigh up the options then.

Quoted from Ipswin

As far as the mayor of Manchester is concerned someone needs to tell him it's not a case of 'I don't want it', you've flipping got it chum and if you don't like it hand your mayoral chain and your expenses claim forms in and urine off

Starmer and the London fella I agree with 100%

Quoted from ska face

You’ve got to laugh at just how ignorant and parochial people like LCL are when they talk about other countries being a similarly bad position to the U.K.  

In the past 6 days, Qingdao in China has successfully tested 10.78million people because of small outbreak. That’s what happens when you put the people first and you’re not concerned with letting your mates line their pockets.

People before profit, but not if you’re a Tory or their bootlicking enablers.

Quoted from ska face

You’ve got to laugh at just how ignorant and parochial people like LCL are when they talk about other countries being a similarly bad position to the U.K.  

In the past 6 days, Qingdao in China has successfully tested 10.78million people because of small outbreak. That’s what happens when you put the people first and you’re not concerned with letting your mates line their pockets.

People before profit, but not if you’re a Tory or their bootlicking enablers.

Quoted from ska face

You’ve got to laugh at just how ignorant and parochial people like LCL are when they talk about other countries being a similarly bad position to the U.K.  

In the past 6 days, Qingdao in China has successfully tested 10.78million people because of small outbreak. That’s what happens when you put the people first and you’re not concerned with letting your mates line their pockets.

People before profit, but not if you’re a Tory or their bootlicking enablers.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Actually I have been thinking about this lining your pockets, and people before profit malarkey and politicians coining it in, and I am coming round to your point of view. Of course, Labour  politicians show us a better way, none more so than Labour MP Seema Malhorta who I watched on QT last night.

A died in the wool socialist, Ms Malhorta lives in a four-storey house in Chelsea, valued at something like 8 million pounds. She has a property portfolio valued at well over 15 million pounds. All in it together is Ms Malhorta's watch word. She is married to an international management consultant and financier so they are indeed a power couple of the highest order and as an advocate of wealth creation I say well done to them.

Of course she is far from alone in the Labour party. Its leader Sir Keir Starmer KCB QC MP is a millionaire, of course. The leader describes himself as a committed socialist in the Atlee tradition. Of course he does. The rest of the shadow cabinet is stuffed with  millionaires and is surrounded by millionaire advisors, and every single one of them has acted in absolute good faith. It is amazing how Labour politicians accrue such vast wealth without resorting to the stuff the Tory politicians get up to, but I take my hat off to them all.

How far we have come since the 1960's when the hard up working man rose through the ranks of the Labour party to take on those snooty Tory posh boys.

I don't suppose any Labour supporters on here are millionaires like their shadow cabinet, or have much in common with them apart from sharing their principles, a bit like myself, a poor boy from the slums of Grimsby but who shares conservative values, in their widest sense.