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aldi_01
September 22, 2020, 6:19am

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I mean, as has been said before, defence of the government by simply saying it ‘it could be worse, it could be Corbyn’ is laughable.

Literally no evidence to suggest anything of the sort. I mean it once again suggests people are unable to think for themselves, instead choosing to believe a media that simply decided to hate a bloke because he was actually a threat to many things in a positive way. Instead forcing us down a path where folk who are not even seen as relevant or important to Boris suddenly felt like he represented them.

The governments response is nothing short of incompetent and embarrassing. They’re once again just plucking rules and ideas out of thin air with zero thought processes and yet still, instead of challenging and questioning the shitshow of control they choose to say ‘it could be worse, it could be Corbyn’...

Anyways, off to the pub, need to get ales on before it shuts at 10. Shutting an hour earlier will make all the difference apparently...


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According to today's Telegraph they've started panic buying pasta and toilet roll again FFS.


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According to today's Telegraph they've started panic buying pasta and toilet roll again FFS.


It will get even worse when the public realise that supermarkets will suffer stock issues, if we end up with no deal.
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I think the country has got off very lightly, the changes the fat blond idiot has announced today are neither here nor there and will make absolutely no difference. The pubs and restaurants should be closed full stop none of this 'you're alright it's safe until 10pm' balderdash Other than the 10pm bit I don't see any major new rules at all.

Wedding attendances cut from 30 to 15 Big deal! Done a lot of poor buggers a favour.

Wishy washy non-event, 5000 infections a day by October


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I think the country has got off very lightly, the changes the fat blond idiot has announced today are neither here nor there and will make absolutely no difference. The pubs and restaurants should be closed full stop none of this 'you're alright it's safe until 10pm' balderdash Other than the 10pm bit I don't see any major new rules at all.

Wedding attendances cut from 30 to 15 Big deal! Done a lot of poor buggers a favour.

Wishy washy non-event, 5000 infections a day by October


You are failing to realise that the virus is nocturnal and that it prefers weddings to funerals! This is inspired leadership!


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You are failing to realise that the virus is nocturnal and that it prefers weddings to funerals! This is inspired leadership!


Oh now I get it! That's why Boris is trying to increase the number of funerals



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Oh now I get it! That's why Boris is trying to increase the number of funerals



Yes! Exactly. There is method to the madness and here was me thinking he was just a complete and utter buffoon with a fetish for U-Turns.


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The Labour Party is a democratic socialist organisation which, despite the rubbish the right wing press of this country continue to peddle, is a broad church. Quite apart from the fact that no M.P. could ever singularly nominate anyone (Corbyn needed 35 backers to get on the ballot paper-he actually got 36) the Leadership contenders before Corbyn joined the fray were all pretty much the same as each other. In a democracy and for a position as one of the figureheads of one of the two major parties in British politics it is sensible to widen the spectrum to try to ensure that more people can actively engage in the process. I wouldn't think that the Tory party will ever engage in such a practice which might be why we've ended up with a P.M. who got "the job" on the back of less than 100,000 votes.
Corbyn's win was by a huge margin. Certainly bigger than the one that Brexiteers keep banging on about the country accepting.
Corbyn undoubtedly made mistakes-for me the two biggest were:-
Him listening to the London centric "remainers" (which I'd have expected a life-long Euro sceptic to have little difficulty not doing) rather than push the policy (which was agreed by Conference) of supporting Brexit but trying to ensure that in the negotiations the rights of ordinary people were recognised.
Not understanding that the mood of the country meant that for the first time in my life-time a General Election was fought on a single issue. I'd also add recruiting some absolute idiots to run the 2019 campaign who amongst other moments of brilliantly incisive campaigning decided to remove support from candidates fighting marginal seats to flood safe Tory seats like Altrincham in Manchester whilst letting the Tories in in Bury North. These people threw tens of very decent, hard-working Northern Labour M.P into the fire.
Covid-19 has caused the normal aspects of governance to be thrown out of the window-which for the Tories is an absolute blessing in disguise. If you are getting more worked up by the perceived inability of a basically decent man to be an effective P.M. than you are about the "real thing" who has wasted billions of pounds of public money awarding contracts without any form of tendering to his mates, who has given high profile jobs to people whose past failures suggest that they weren't perhaps the best candidate for the role (Yes you Dido Harding) and someone who has performed more u-turns in nine months than most Governments manage in nine years, then I respectfully suggest that the problem lies with you rather than Mr Corbyn.


That is a brilliant set of reasons why labour were unelectable under Corbyn which is rather the point I was making! Any leader worth his salt would have been able to get a grip on most of the issues you list.

Even Sir Kier "man of the people" Starmer says Corbyn was unelectable and he was working with him!

As regards the criticism of Boris I have seen the Labour party spokespeople ove the weekend and in the Commons today broadly agree with the governments stance on Covid so I don't know why you think Labour would have done any better than the government. Everything is much easier in hindsight and asking for a better test and trace system is hardly a different strategy.  

As a right winger I think the government could have done things a lot better, but to even try to imagine the Labour party under Corbyn would ever make a better job of it is for the birds.

Starmer may be able to turn your fortunes around, but from such a low base I doubt it. I see he is now trying to paint the party as patriotic and that they love the UK really. He now says he will listen to ordinary voters concerns, which is code for immigration controls, sentences that fit the crime, putting the UK first and not wasting billions of our hard earned money on undeserved overseas aid. None of those things have ever concerned him in the past. The Conservatives have a lot to do to tackle any of these things either but that is another story.

As I type a Doncaster voter is on channel 4 news is saying the once great Labour party has "gone to member" and it is difficult to disagree so I would respectfully suggest the problem does not lie with me it lies with the Labour party.  

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We’ve basically just witnessed why it was so important that Cummings was sacked around the time he went up to Barnard Castle. Do as I say, not as I do balderdash. As if the time between now and March wasn’t long enough as it is.
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That is a brilliant set of reasons why labour were unelectable under Corbyn which is rather the point I was making! Any leader worth his salt would have been able to get a grip on most of the issues you list.

Even Sir Kier "man of the people" Starmer says Corbyn was unelectable and he was working with him!

As regards the criticism of Boris I have seen the Labour party spokespeople ove the weekend and in the Commons today broadly agree with the governments stance on Covid so I don't know why you think Labour would have done any better than the government. Everything is much easier in hindsight and asking for a better test and trace system is hardly a different strategy.  

As a right winger I think the government could have done things a lot better, but to even try to imagine the Labour party under Corbyn would ever make a better job of it is for the birds.


Starmer may be able to turn your fortunes around, but from such a low base I doubt it. I see he is now trying to paint the party as patriotic and that they love the UK really. He now says he will listen to ordinary voters concerns, which is code for immigration controls, sentences that fit the crime, putting the UK first and not wasting billions of our hard earned money on undeserved overseas aid. None of those things have ever concerned him in the past. The Conservatives have a lot to do to tackle any of these things either but that is another story.

As I type a Doncaster voter is on channel 4 news is saying the once great Labour party has "gone to member" and it is difficult to disagree so I would respectfully suggest the problem does not lie with me it lies with the Labour party.  



Once again,how do you know that??
You seem to be obsessing about an unelected party to deflect criticism of your own one.






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