Coronavirus

It is a flipping shitshow. A decent track and trace system is the route to a relatively normal life for 95% of the country at any given moment. Unfortunately we don't appear to have anything even functioning let alone world-beating.

Quoted from Stadium

Good work Dodo.......

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Boris Johnson has claimed the UK will have a “world-beating" system to test, track and trace for coronavirus up and running by 1 June.

Speaking at Prime Minister’s Questions he said he has "growing confidence” the Government will be able to deliver it by the end of the month when schools are expected to start re-opening classrooms.

Obviously the normal disclaimer for ahem .. certain posters.
"Would have been worse under Labour,Corbyn etc etc....."

One thing is for sure. It would have been a lot worse with a government led by Jeremy Corbyn.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

One thing is for sure. It would have been a lot worse with a government led by Jeremy Corbyn.

How?

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

One thing is for sure. It would have been a lot worse with a government led by Jeremy Corbyn.

Please explain and provide some facts??

I did read this piece which explains it quite nicely:

"Whenever they’re confronted with the reality of how badly the Tory government have handled the coronavirus crisis, the Tory tribalist response is to resort to distraction tactics.

One of their absolute favourite distractions is to conjure up the imaginary scenario of Jeremy Corbyn as Prime Minister, as if it would self-evidently be so much worse.

The best response they can come up with to distract from the observable reality that tens of thousands are dead because the Tories let the contagion spread like wildfire, is sneering at a purely imaginary scenario"

Quoted from LH

How?

Exactly. I watched Johnson's performance in the H of C today and it is difficult to imagine anyone being worse.
It's the weakest of arguments against criticism doing the rounds at the moment usually from people who know in their heart that he is doing a crap job but are in denial that they've been hoodwinked.

Quoted from barralad

Exactly. I watched Johnson's performance in the H of C today and it is difficult to imagine anyone being worse.
It's the weakest of arguments against criticism doing the rounds at the moment usually from people who know in their heart that he is doing a crap job but are in denial that they've been hoodwinked.

Most Tory supporters know Johnson has been appalling but most sane people would never ever allowed Corbyn anywhere near Downing street.

Governments usually turn out to be disappointing despite their pre election rhetoric but Corbyn took such a heavy defeat which even Labour MP'S could see coming it begs the question why he was ever allowed to challenge for the leadership.

Actually I know the answer to that - Margaret Beckett put him on the ballot paper for a laugh!

Love 2 vote for corrupt plutocrats on the basis that the press has scared me into thinking the alternative of mild social-democracy and a fairer approach to wealth distribution is somehow against my interests. I am very smart.

It isn't all that bad. We can still go grouse shooting in large groups.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Most Tory supporters know Johnson has been appalling but most sane people would never ever allowed Corbyn anywhere near Downing street.

Governments usually turn out to be disappointing despite their pre election rhetoric but Corbyn took such a heavy defeat which even Labour MP'S could see coming it begs the question why he was ever allowed to challenge for the leadership.

Actually I know the answer to that - Margaret Beckett put him on the ballot paper for a laugh!

The Labour Party is a democratic socialist organisation which, despite the rubbish the right wing press of this country continue to peddle, is a broad church. Quite apart from the fact that no M.P. could ever singularly nominate anyone (Corbyn needed 35 backers to get on the ballot paper-he actually got 36) the Leadership contenders before Corbyn joined the fray were all pretty much the same as each other. In a democracy and for a position as one of the figureheads of one of the two major parties in British politics it is sensible to widen the spectrum to try to ensure that more people can actively engage in the process. I wouldn't think that the Tory party will ever engage in such a practice which might be why we've ended up with a P.M. who got "the job" on the back of less than 100,000 votes.
Corbyn's win was by a huge margin. Certainly bigger than the one that Brexiteers keep banging on about the country accepting.
Corbyn undoubtedly made mistakes-for me the two biggest were:-
Him listening to the London centric "remainers" (which I'd have expected a life-long Euro sceptic to have little difficulty not doing) rather than push the policy (which was agreed by Conference) of supporting Brexit but trying to ensure that in the negotiations the rights of ordinary people were recognised.
Not understanding that the mood of the country meant that for the first time in my life-time a General Election was fought on a single issue. I'd also add recruiting some absolute idiots to run the 2019 campaign who amongst other moments of brilliantly incisive campaigning decided to remove support from candidates fighting marginal seats to flood safe Tory seats like Altrincham in Manchester whilst letting the Tories in in Bury North. These people threw tens of very decent, hard-working Northern Labour M.P into the fire.
Covid-19 has caused the normal aspects of governance to be thrown out of the window-which for the Tories is an absolute blessing in disguise. If you are getting more worked up by the perceived inability of a basically decent man to be an effective P.M. than you are about the "real thing" who has wasted billions of pounds of public money awarding contracts without any form of tendering to his mates, who has given high profile jobs to people whose past failures suggest that they weren't perhaps the best candidate for the role (Yes you Dido Harding) and someone who has performed more u-turns in nine months than most Governments manage in nine years, then I respectfully suggest that the problem lies with you rather than Mr Corbyn.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

Most Tory supporters know Johnson has been appalling but most sane people would never ever allowed Corbyn anywhere near Downing street.

Governments usually turn out to be disappointing despite their pre election rhetoric but Corbyn took such a heavy defeat which even Labour MP'S could see coming it begs the question why he was ever allowed to challenge for the leadership.

Actually I know the answer to that - Margaret Beckett put him on the ballot paper for a laugh!

Haha.
At least he hasn't been told to "sort his life out" by IH.

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