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Gaffer58
May 27, 2020, 11:29am
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I think the majority agree he did wrong, but if he’s so important to Boris and the running of the country isn’t it better he stays on, if you look into his thoughts on how the government are currently run he’s all about shaking it up, probably too many career politicians and civil servants worried about their future gongs and index linked pensions, another reason he’s not liked.
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I think the majority agree he did wrong, but if he’s so important to Boris and the running of the country isn’t it better he stays on, if you look into his thoughts on how the government are currently run he’s all about shaking it up, probably too many career politicians and civil servants worried about their future gongs and index linked pensions, another reason he’s not liked.


The great majority agree he did wrong because he obviously did do wrong, his schoolboy excuses made it look even worse, you may think it’s ok to have two sets of laws depending on how important someone might be but the British people in general do not.
He is a civil servant elected by no one, he sat on the committee advising on making the rules, he broke them, that the fools in charge are now trying to retrospectively bend them to fit his mistakes and even advocated driving to test your eyesight shows how badly the government has misread the public anger over this blatant hypocrisy.
He is an adviser, the Government will go on without him, if Boris thinks he is not up to it without his right hand man maybe he should step aside, there will be no shortage of takers for the top job
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My one comment on this is that Cummings and Johnson are as linked as Campbell and Blair. Each needs the other and neither can really work as well with anyone else. Therefore they are very reluctant to let go regardless of circumstances.

They seem to believe that the situation has been manipulated by people who find Cummings a threat or distasteful in some way. Neither seems to think there is any wrongdoing and resignation and/or dismissal would be a personal act as opposed to a political act in the public good.

Whether they are right or wrong depends on where your opinions of the pair start from and how you use the actions of Cummings to back up that belief rather than any rational examination of his stupidity or otherwise.

Personally I think he should go because he has become the story and a distraction to the real issues. I do think he is a Marmite person and in some ways I am sorry we shall lose his ability to upset some of the civil servant jobsworths but that is the price of thinking you are invincible. He isn't.


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If you look what has happened in the past.

Mandelson sacked three times and always came back after a while.

Boris sacked or left his cabinet posts but now is PM.

I think Boris should ask Branson if Cummings could borrow his island for 3 months and send him there out the way.

At least it will stop all this talk in the papers and on the news going on about it until something is done.




PS. Only joking about the island but would love to see Branson,s face if Boris did ask for it free of charge.


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I take it that’s Sir Richard Branson, who has a personal fortune of £3 billion plus, who was given a knighthood, don’t know what for, and lives as a tax exile, but is now pleading poverty and has already furloughed staff. People like him and Sir Richard Green, another tax exile, are the reason why we should stop the stupid honours list.
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If you look what has happened in the past.

Mandelson sacked three times and always came back after a while.

Boris sacked or left his cabinet posts but now is PM.

I think Boris should ask Branson if Cummings could borrow his island for 3 months and send him there out the way.

At least it will stop all this talk in the papers and on the news going on about it until something is done.




PS. Only joking about the island but would love to see Branson,s face if Boris did ask for it free of charge.


Just let him stay at Barnard Castle, if he likes the place so much.


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I take it that’s Sir Richard Branson, who has a personal fortune of £3 billion plus, who was given a knighthood, don’t know what for, and lives as a tax exile, but is now pleading poverty and has already furloughed staff. People like him and Sir Richard Green, another tax exile, are the reason why we should stop the stupid honours list.


And has just tested a rocket, badly.


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The Mail has published an opinion poll today that absolutely clobbers Johnson and Cummings and questions the government's competence. 20+ Tory MPs have called for Cummings to resign (or be sacked) and one minister has resigned.

Johnson can't just ignore all that....


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The Mail has published an opinion poll today that absolutely clobbers Johnson and Cummings and questions the government's competence. 20+ Tory MPs have called for Cummings to resign (or be sacked) and one minister has resigned.

Johnson can't just ignore all that....


Yes he can but he will pay for it in the long run.


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The Mail has published an opinion poll today that absolutely clobbers Johnson and Cummings and questions the government's competence. 20+ Tory MPs have called for Cummings to resign (or be sacked) and one minister has resigned.

Johnson can't just ignore all that....


Why not?

Cor blimey mate, Blair ignored the fact that he was caught out lying to parliament and the country and was responsible for God knows how many deaths! That is what politicians do nowadays. The old times of taking Ministerial responsibility have long gone.



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