Coronavirus

Quoted from MarinerMal

It is going to get far worse by the looks of it because we were slow to initiate lockdown procedures.

According to a study by The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) we aren't due to peak for another 8/9 days. We are probably looking at nearly 3000 deaths a day at that point.

In total they predict the UK will experience 66,000 deaths due to covid-19, which could be as much as 40% of the total European deaths.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11347508/uk-could-worst-hit-coronavirus-europe-deaths/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-could-worst-hit-coronavirus-21827665
https://www.theguardian.com/wo.....virus-study-predicts

Note that isn't the model from Imperial College thus:

In March, modellers relied on by the UK government, led by the team at Imperial College London, said deaths could reach 260,000 in the UK with no restrictions on movement, but they hoped to get deaths down to 20,000 through the lockdown strategy.

Ferguson said he did not think the predictions could be relied on. “This model does not match the current UK situation,” he said, adding that the numbers used by the IHME were at least twice as high as they should be for current bed usage and deaths in the NHS. “Basically, their healthcare demand model is wrong, at least for the UK,” he said.

The IHME said its model was designed to be updated from day to day as the pandemic goes on. For a country such as the UK, which is quite early on in its outbreak, the uncertainty was higher and the headline numbers might change over the next few days as more data is collected.

The IHME predict less deaths in the USA than the UK.

Referencing back to the posts about Chinese wet markets being the source, this article is an interesting read https://www.grain.org/en/artic.....orona-virus-outbreak

Quoted from gaz57

I'm going for my treatment tomorrow ( infusion ) and must admit to being scared , I have no idea if the nurse's have PPE  and advised by the hospital there wasn't enough to go round. I was told to just turn up and carry on as usual. The staff in that department are brilliant but with all the best will in the world no one knows it they carry the virus.

Good luck Gaz 👍

Received  my Boris letter today, problem is after the post person had put it through my letterbox he proceeded to get a tissue/handkerchief out and blow then wipe his nose.Wondering how many times he’s done this before getting to me, so to date have left the envelope on the floor, probably open it in a couple of days. Am I being careful or paranoid?

Quoted from Roast Em Bobby

Referencing back to the posts about Chinese wet markets being the source, this article is an interesting read https://www.grain.org/en/artic.....orona-virus-outbreak

People don’t want to believe factory farming may be the cause, or that it’s been flagged up as the most likely place for viruses to jump species with viruses and bacteria adapting to the antibiotics they are fed. We like our meat cheap and the industry has a massive lobby

Quoted from Gaffer58

Received  my Boris letter today, problem is after the post person had put it through my letterbox he proceeded to get a tissue/handkerchief out and blow then wipe his nose.Wondering how many times he’s done this before getting to me, so to date have left the envelope on the floor, probably open it in a couple of days. Am I being careful or paranoid?

They did tests in the US which indicated the virus can remain viable on cardboard (and therefore, I assume, paper) for up to 24 hours. I've been leaving packages and envelopes in the corner of the room for a day before touching them) wash hands after moving them, of course. Plastic (perhaps including sellotape?) it can be viable for 72 hours, metal surfaces for a number of days. Of course, if something is outside in the fresh air, the virus will be inactivated more quickly.

The CDC in the US says you can clean the grocery packaging using a weak bleach solution - 1 teaspoon per pint of water. I've been doing this and it's much easier than trying to use wipes. Just dry it off with a teatowel afterwards or let it drip dry.

It's probably a bit overkill as most infections will be person to person, but no harm in trying to remove any additional risk factor.

Quoted from Gaffer58

Received  my Boris letter today, problem is after the post person had put it through my letterbox he proceeded to get a tissue/handkerchief out and blow then wipe his nose.Wondering how many times he’s done this before getting to me, so to date have left the envelope on the floor, probably open it in a couple of days. Am I being careful or paranoid?

Pick it up carefully whilst wearing your thickest gardening gloves and bin it unopened. it tells you nothing that hasn't been repeated ad infinitum for weeks,

(it's not even personally addressed and he hasn't even signed it)

Quoted from Ipswin

Pick it up carefully whilst wearing your thickest gardening gloves and bin it unopened. it tells you nothing that hasn't been repeated ad infinitum for weeks,

(it's not even personally addressed and he hasn't even signed it)

Agree, waste of 4m quid . If you really want to know the content read it online

Quoted from supertown

Agree, waste of 4m quid . If you really want to know the content read it online

Wasn’t it £5.8m? I suppose it saves a few pennies with the taxpayer footing the bill for the conservative political broadcast rather than the Tory donors.

Quoted from Maringer

They did tests in the US which indicated the virus can remain viable on cardboard (and therefore, I assume, paper) for up to 24 hours. I've been leaving packages and envelopes in the corner of the room for a day before touching them) wash hands after moving them, of course. Plastic (perhaps including sellotape?) it can be viable for 72 hours, metal surfaces for a number of days. Of course, if something is outside in the fresh air, the virus will be inactivated more quickly.

The CDC in the US says you can clean the grocery packaging using a weak bleach solution - 1 teaspoon per pint of water. I've been doing this and it's much easier than trying to use wipes. Just dry it off with a teatowel afterwards or let it drip dry.

It's probably a bit overkill as most infections will be person to person, but no harm in trying to remove any additional risk factor.

I leave the wife in the corner for 5 days after touching her.