Coronavirus

Quoted from jamesgtfc

There has probably always been more media than the time allotted for questions allows. I'm not defending it but if they ask something controversial, it probably won't get answered and they won't get an opportunity to ask questions the following days.

Hancock in particular is allowed to waffle away without a proper answer without any comeback, and Laura Toryberg is only worried how Johnson is, no one as jet answered why we did nothing for 2 months, we had Italian doctors making videos and screaming at us to get prepared, the Government have a bunch of scientists who think it’s ok to have Cheltenham festival and a major football match with 3000 fans from a Coronavirus hot spot one week and tell us to be 2 metres apart the next. We had stories of herd immunity then a complete U turn. There are no straight answered as to what policy we have been following and an explanation of the evidence

That's a good article by Campbell to be fair - the questioning has been poor

Quoted from codcheeky

Hancock in particular is allowed to waffle away without a proper answer without any comeback, and Laura Toryberg is only worried how Johnson is, no one as jet answered why we did nothing for 2 months, we had Italian doctors making videos and screaming at us to get prepared, the Government have a bunch of scientists who think it’s ok to have Cheltenham festival and a major football match with 3000 fans from a Coronavirus hot spot one week and tell us to be 2 metres apart the next. We had stories of herd immunity then a complete U turn. There are no straight answered as to what policy we have been following and an explanation of the evidence

Italy’s first case was jan 31st , which 2 months are you saying that they  were ‘screaming at us to prepare’?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

The Shadow Health Sec may have said that. How do we know the Government are following scientific advice? Why don’t they publish the scientific advice then like Labour have been asking?

You hold the Government to account by asking pertinent questions not by shrugging your shoulders and saying ‘would the opposition have di e differently. Unless you’re quite happy for people to die unecessarily.

Not being funny Kingston but I seem to be seeing and hearing scientific advice and research every single day from home and abroad on every news bulletin and media outlet. Very often they say polar opposites. One day Sweden is the model, next day Chinese research is the key .....  Exactly what more scientific advice is there that the shadow HS thinks should be published?

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

Not being funny Kingston but I seem to be seeing and hearing scientific advice and research every single day from home and abroad on every news bulletin and media outlet. Very often they say polar opposites. One day Sweden is the model, next day Chinese research is the key .....  Exactly what more scientific advice is there that the shadow HS thinks should be published?

Probably the advice that the Shadow HS and some experts on here agree with.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

Not being funny Kingston but I seem to be seeing and hearing scientific advice and research every single day from home and abroad on every news bulletin and media outlet. Very often they say polar opposites. One day Sweden is the model, next day Chinese research is the key .....  Exactly what more scientific advice is there that the shadow HS thinks should be published?

We’re seeing third hand reports you mean. The Swedish example appears to be a poor example to follow with them appearing to have gone down  the heard immunity route our government were spouting initially.

What would be good is seeing what scientific advice our government has actually had. What have they got to hide? Is it a bit like that report on Russian involvement in elections that we were supposed to have had last year but was conveniently postponed and forgotten about?

Back in January when Wuhan was put into lockdown because they were getting overrun with cases what preparations were our “exerts” telling the government to do. It just looks to my amateur eyes that we reacted several weeks too late. Hopefully when this is over a proper examination will take place, not necessarily to point fingers but to ensure we get it right next time.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Errrr .... have Labour been in government the last 10 years? Just checking because one of us seems to have been living in an alternative reality.

Errr labour were in power for long enough to have implemented a plan and bought the necessary equipment so any review would mean minimal stock and equipment would be needed, a top up so to speak. The fact we don't have what Maringer is claiming means Labour just had good fortune that a pandemic didn't happen in their time in office or we would be were we are now.

It is estimated that every 50 years there is a possibility of a world wide pandemic, and Obama spoke in 2005 about putting infrastructure in place in the USA not only to deal with a pandemic but to head it off. What were labour doing in 2005?



What I am saying is that all previous governments have failed in preparing for this pandemic, and regardless of who is in office now they would all have had the same issues, be it labour or Lib Dems.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

We’re seeing third hand reports you mean. The Swedish example appears to be a poor example to follow with them appearing to have gone down  the heard immunity route our government were spouting initially.

What would be good is seeing what scientific advice our government has actually had. What have they got to hide? Is it a bit like that report on Russian involvement in elections that we were supposed to have had last year but was conveniently postponed and forgotten about?

I thought we were seeing that advice on a daily basis. You think not? You think there is more independent information that we are deliberately being kept in the dark about?  Some stats or something nasty about mutations being hidden? That would be bad but I can’t see how much is hidden. Lots of first hand statements world wide not just U.K. gov press conferences giving facts and opinions.

In the end there are only two choices from here aren’t there - keep lock down or stop lockdown at slow or fast speed. Or, do you believe there a “third way” forward you think we are not privy to? Sorry mate but I can’t see what else there is to say and I honestly cannot see what people are after because it is a yes or no question.  I will keep some tin foil handy though.

At least they've got the testing ramped up according the Home Secretary.

"there have been three hundred thousand and ninety four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand tests"