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mariner91
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Diane Abbott would be slaughtered for making that mistake. Shall we see if the regular suspects pull Priti Patel up for such a gaff?
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The views of people on here are getting pretty much predictable depending on which party they support. The supporters of a certain party are bigots and I can more or less predict what utter tripe they will be spouting. We all know who they are.
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The views of people on here are getting pretty much predictable depending on which party they support. The supporters of a certain party are bigots and I can more or less predict what utter tripe they will be spouting. We all know who they are.


Enlighten us? What tripe?


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Enlighten us? What tripe?

That the government has failed us
That we ignored the WHO and seen likely to have more due here than anywhere else in Europe?
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That the government has failed us
That we ignored the WHO and seen likely to have more due here than anywhere else in Europe?


An organisation funded by the Chinese and the true effects of a virus that broke out in September 2019...they lied to the world about h2h...they now are trying to be unsung heroes we should all listen to...bollox, the WHO can their advice and shove it where the sun don't shine....listen to PHE and our scientists, they have our best interests at heart...simple as..
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An organisation funded by the Chinese and the true effects of a virus that broke out in September 2019...they lied to the world about h2h...they now are trying to be unsung heroes we should all listen to...bollox, the WHO can their advice and shove it where the sun don't shine....listen to PHE and our scientists, they have our best interests at heart...simple as..


Unfortunately when we add up the figures at the end of this out governed it's advisers will look pretty poor, I hope I am wrong but it doesn't look like it at the moment.
I completely agree about the disgraceful way China dealt with this
This doesn't excuse out woeful response, we are not even adding deaths outside hospital, there are strong rumours hospitals are asking care homes to take infected people back because there is no room and no hope for them, this seems absolute madness if true.( I heard this on a phone in radio show) trying to keep the official figures down is foolish, the Government have a very very difficult job and I am not saying it would be much differently a another Party, but straight answers, transparency and complete honesty are vital for public confidence

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Diane Abbott would be slaughtered for making that mistake. Shall we see if the regular suspects pull Priti Patel up for such a gaff?


I am sure Marinerz93 will be bringing it up for a few years probably with a childish gift to help
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Priti Patel is one if the most hard faced politicians I have seen for a long while. No remorse, no acknowledgement of woeful failings.

Listen to the NHS staff. They are risking their lives daily, whilst Hancock questions where they have contracted Covid. WTF! He then said that NHS staff were being wasteful in their use of PPE. 10 years of government. Countless international warnings of such pandemics. Yes, my politics are obvious. However, this goes way beyond that.

Shifting blame, inability to offer genuine apologies. Shame on them.


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If this ratio has remained accurate, we're certainly not being given the full picture, and quite deliberately so:

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Ultimately, it will all come out in the wash as the overall mortality figures from the ONS will eventually show us just how many more have died than would normally be expected during this period of any given year. It will be interesting to see how the government deflect blame for our terrible figures in comparison to those of our immediate peers (US aside, of course).
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I thought we were seeing that advice on a daily basis. You think not? You think there is more independent information that we are deliberately being kept in the dark about?  Some stats or something nasty about mutations being hidden? That would be bad but I can’t see how much is hidden. Lots of first hand statements world wide not just U.K. gov press conferences giving facts and opinions.

In the end there are only two choices from here aren’t there - keep lock down or stop lockdown at slow or fast speed. Or, do you believe there a “third way” forward you think we are not privy to? Sorry mate but I can’t see what else there is to say and I honestly cannot see what people are after because it is a yes or no question.  I will keep some tin foil handy though.





Of course not. I’m not one of those conspiracy nut jobs. I’d just like the advice the government had received to be published. For example, What advice did they get when they decided a lockdown wasn’t desirable and what advice had they had when they changed their mind? Why not publish it and let the opposition see it? And for the media to see it so. It’s a national emergency so involving the opposition is the thing to do. What have they got to hide? Something embarrassing possibly.


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