Its happening!!! The takeover!!!

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

If he doesn't go then more people will stay away and vote with their feet.

I hope for all our sakes something is confirmed soon.

Are you saying that more fans are affected by who owns the club than the football that is on display ? On that basis then if we have a great start to the season and are top by mid October then fans will still stay away from BP because JF is still running the club? Most of the people I talk to about GTFC in the clubs and pubs I frequent stay away because of the football and couldn't care less about who owns/runs the club. They would attend because of the football and not the politics.

Friend of director----  Is the take over going ahead ?

Director -------------  Shut Up nothing to say,

Friend-----------   I take it it's not going ahead then ?

Director --------- Think what you like,

Friend ----------   OK  I will tell my mate who will put it on the Fishy,

Director -------  Oh shut up !!!!!!!!

Quoted from rancido

Are you saying that more fans are affected by who owns the club than the football that is on display ? On that basis then if we have a great start to the season and are top by mid October then fans will still stay away from BP because JF is still running the club? Most of the people I talk to about GTFC in the clubs and pubs I frequent stay away because of the football and couldn't care less about who owns/runs the club. They would attend because of the football and not the politics.

No I am not saying that. What I am saying is that peoples hopes have been raised by talk of a takeover. That takeover would have galvanised the club and its supporters and would have given lost fans the incentive to go again, and persuaded those that were holding off buying a season ticket until the takeover was completed.

Failure for the takeover to be completed would mean less fans, and supporters would have been more understanding of a bad run of results if they knew the club was headed in a new direction under new owners.

In my opinion it is far more important for the club that Fenty's reign ends asap so we can have a fresh start.

I hope we are top of the league in October, of course I do, but all the fundamental problems will remain.

Quoted from rancido

Are you saying that more fans are affected by who owns the club than the football that is on display ? On that basis then if we have a great start to the season and are top by mid October then fans will still stay away from BP because JF is still running the club? Most of the people I talk to about GTFC in the clubs and pubs I frequent stay away because of the football and couldn't care less about who owns/runs the club. They would attend because of the football and not the politics.

I think you're missing the point. A much better run club would produce more revenue which will help acheive more success on the playing side.

It's not an either or situation. It's not a case of what would you rather have, 'new owners or better performance on the pitch?'

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I think you're missing the point. A much better run club would produce more revenue which will help acheive more success on the playing side.

It's not an either or situation. It's not a case of what would you rather have, 'new owners or better performance on the pitch?'

But the current interpretation of a better run club is "spend less" ....it disregards supporters almost detests them is how it feels sometimes.....

a new owner with exactly the same financial clout as the current one would immediately be better off if they just gave the supporters  some respect. It wouldn't take an oligarch or billionaire to improve things....get the supporters on board and the club can go places.

Quoted from moosey_club

But the current interpretation of a better run club is "spend less" ....it disregards supporters almost detests them is how it feels sometimes.....

a new owner with exactly the same financial clout as the current one would immediately be better off if they just gave the supporters  some respect. It wouldn't take an oligarch or billionaire to improve things....get the supporters on board and the club can go places.

It's just time to break the cycle of a well intending owner having put in the hard yards and a fair slice of his money for seventeen years and only has to show a balancing of the books, a management of the debt to keep it at historically at the same level, and not being able lead the football team to anything other than a low Fourth Division league position or much worse. You can't blame JF for being frustrated that he hasn't done any better and having a bruised ego. The fans can't be blamed for wanting better than his record either, and they certainly don't buy into his futile protestations of his reign being a success. This is the sticking point, this is where the animosity lies, and will only change with a fresh start.

I don't buy into the theory that fans are staying away only because the football has been shite. It's a part of it but not the whole story. Home attendances will go up if the football and results get better, that's not in doubt. But that rise in attendances will only ever be a temporary dilution of what the increases could be. Fans, not just the diehards, need to buy into the clubs plans for the future, have a vision to cling onto and they need the facilities to be proud of and make their matchday experience a decent one even if their team loses or the game isn't great. They don't need an owner chastising them saying it's their fault, they don't understand what a great job he's doing and they're too blind and ungrateful to buy into it. If the "tyrekicker" has a chance of providing the missing pieces of the jigsaw then it's his turn to have a go. We have to break the cycle of ownership sooner rather than later, because with all of the evidence laid out in front of us easily determined from what is now a long history of his ownership, I can't see how JF is going to deliver what we need. He needs a rest from his frustrations and the fans need a rest from his frustrations too. It's time for a change.. and that's the long and the short of it, rather than hoping that the team puts together a few good performances for the fans to come back to a decrepit BP and then drift off when the team starts losing again. To be sustainable, PR and club/fan relationships are so much more than "we do our PR on the the pitch" attitudes seen written lately on this thread and hopefully we can get a new owner that can lead us down a better and more fruitful sustainable path to a club based around a re-invigorated community spirit rather than the torment of a single person's ego and the hope of having one decent season in eighteen at the right end of Division Four..

Another thing you need to take into consideration is how many managers has Fenty sacked during his term in office, ?

How many of those managers had restricted budgets so their job was much harder than it might have been ?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I think you're missing the point. A much better run club would produce more revenue which will help acheive more success on the playing side.

It's not an either or situation. It's not a case of what would you rather have, 'new owners or better performance on the pitch?'

To clarify, the initial discussion was around attendance & this point:

"If he doesn't go then more people will stay away and vote with their feet.
I hope for all our sakes something is confirmed soon."

Nobody will deny a better run business should increase revenues.
The point been made was form & league will always have the most effect on attendance.
After the information posted earlier in the thread,the ownership issue is having virtually no influence on current sales of ST's

Quoted from grimsby pete

Another thing you need to take into consideration is how many managers has Fenty sacked during his term in office, ?

How many of those managers had restricted budgets so their job was much harder than it might have been ?

Do you have evidence of that?

Quoted from Stadium

After the information posted earlier in the thread,the ownership issue is having virtually no influence on current sales of ST's

Just out of interest how many ST's have we sold so far ?