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Grim74
July 22, 2016, 1:15pm
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If you're as proud of this great country as you claim, you should at least have the decency to have a good grasp of your own language. Chaos missed you mixing excepting with accepting too, two very different words.


Quite pathetic and sad to attack a man for his poor grammer😄 what kind of liberal lefty are you.

I'm sure I could troll through all your post and find spelling mistakes but that would make me saddo, and who really gives a intercourse anyway It's only working class footy forum after all get a life.


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July 22, 2016, 1:19pm
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Blah blah black lesbian BBC blah blah sore losers blah blah libtard agenda blah blah prove anything with facts.

There you go Grim 74 - saved you the trouble of posting.


Cheers but only more pessimistic excrement from the voice of doom not to be taken serious.


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The news coming out of the EU that countries will be forced to take refugees and fined (estimated £250K for each one refused) if they don't may shock people but what may shock them more it is estimated that there will double the amount coming this year than last year.



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If this is true then all the more reason for us to be getting the hell out of the EU dictatorship.
As for the likes of Ginny I'd take what he says with a pinch of salt, hes a doom merchant who comes on here with the slightest snippet of negative Brexit news I really don't know what he's trying to achieve by this, brexit means Brexit.


It's been mentioned previously ( in the FT so who knows what validity it has...I assume they have reputable sources )

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/346ba28a-10b8-11e6-bb40-c30e3bfcf63b.html#axzz4F8meC15l

They report € 250,000 not £ 250,000 but if all the merchants of doom have it right, there'll soon be parity between the two currencies won't there?  

I have no particular leaning on this "debate" about whether leaving was the right thing to do or not; as a moderate who could have chosen either way on the day though, I'd argue that the mainstream media do seem to have an agenda that is trying to impress on the general public that Brexit was a bad thing.

It may well prove to be, but (in my opinion) the more negativity there is the greater the chances of an economic downturn.

Confidence in what has taken place and also going forward might be a better message and could turn out to be a self fulfilling prophesy but I question whether that would suit the editors and their proprietors

One thing's for sure...I don't see the general public are going to benefit that much either way.

Out or in....it'll probably be the same as it ever was with our day to day lives just carrying on as they more or less always have. I'm sure we will adjust to whatever the new equilibrium is

The fact that the vote went in favour of Brexit is merely coincidental...as long as us Britain's plebs are left to infighting, it just means the establishment can carry on greedily looking out for themselves

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Agree with what you are saying we need more confidence and optimism from our financial institutions which is why I would sack Mark Carney immediately,  ecery time he opens his pessimist gob the pound seems to fall and don't forget Carney was another one from the establishment predicting brexit Armageddon.

We also need to hear more from the MSM (forget the Guardian only 300 people read it daily) and all the political party's need to come on board and accept the decision, to be fair the goverment are saying the right things which is encouraging because confidence will breed the growth into the economy.

I thing I'd probably agree if we are talking finances that the average pleb would be no worse either way, but one thing for sure Brexit would tax the mega rich like the hypocritical Richard Brandsons and Bob geldoffs of this world, which is why they were so against and why they are demanding a second referendum.


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Looks like you need to be a subscriber to read the link.

Agree with what you are saying we need more confidence and optimism from our financial institutions which is why I would sack Mark Carney immediately,  ecery time he opens his pessimist gob the pound seems to fall and don't forget Carney was another one from the establishment predicting brexit Armageddon.

We also need to hear more from the MSM (forget the Guardian only 300 people read it daily) and all the political party's need to come on board and accept the decision, to be fair the goverment are saying the right things which is encouraging because confidence will breed the growth into the economy.

I thing I'd probably agree if we are talking finances that the average pleb would be no worse either way, but one thing for sure Brexit would tax the mega rich like the hypocritical Richard Brandsons and Bob geldoffs of this world, which is why they were so against and why they are demanding a second referendum.


I don't normally reply to your stuff but I'm intrigued by the assertion about brexit taxing the mega rich? What exactly does that mean cos I've never seen a Tory government tax any mega rich.


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Cheers but only more pessimistic excrement from the voice of doom not to be taken serious.


Yeah, the 650-odd companies responding to the PMI survey and reporting the downturn they have witnessed over the last month are clearly just making it up as part of a massive conspiracy.

Could be a one-month dip, I suppose, but doesn't seem overly likely to me.
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I don't normally reply to your stuff but I'm intrigued by the assertion about brexit taxing the mega rich? What exactly does that mean cos I've never seen a Tory government tax any mega rich.


Just to clarify I implied brexit would be more taxing for the rich, I didn't mention anything about the Tory goverment taxing the rich, even though the top 1% here are already now paying more than ever a quarter of all income in fact, but that's another story.

The rich business owners and banks you know the ones that crashed the economy clearly wanted us to remain simply because the EU helps big businesses to pay lower wages and avoid tax its that simple.
Almost all big business and banks have public relation firms in brussels now, this is  to keep their dominance and corruption in check whilst keeping small business out.

And as for the champagne super rich socialists, they must be dreading getting rid of their Albanian gardeners, Polish nanny's, and Latvian house keepers.
This could even mean employing local people to look after their mansions while they are away living in LA, but even worse for them it could now mean them paying an actual living wage.


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Who exactly are the 'champagne super rich socialists'? Are your posted views actually real? Are these the same people that run the 'scumbag lefty media' that you mentioned before, and who don't actually exist?


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Who exactly are the 'champagne super rich socialists'? Are your posted views actually real? Are these the same people that run the 'scumbag lefty media' that you mentioned before, and who don't actually exist?


Keep taking the pills, you know the ones I'm talking about the preaching lefties like Geldoff, Cumberbach, Brandson, Thompson, Rawlings, Martin, Law, Church, etc, etc, etc, stinking hypocrites who don't live in the real world, the people that will never have to wait days to see a doctor, not worry about enforced immigration in their community, won't have to worry about school places or classroom numbers for their children, etc, etc, etc,


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Just to clarify I implied brexit would be more taxing for the rich, I didn't mention anything about the Tory goverment taxing the rich, even though the top 1% here are already now paying more than ever a quarter of all income in fact, but that's another story.

The rich business owners and banks you know the ones that crashed the economy clearly wanted us to remain simply because the EU helps big businesses to pay lower wages and avoid tax its that simple.
Almost all big business and banks have public relation firms in brussels now, this is  to keep their dominance and corruption in check whilst keeping small business out.

And as for the champagne super rich socialists, they must be dreading getting rid of their Albanian gardeners, Polish nanny's, and Latvian house keepers.
This could even mean employing local people to look after their mansions while they are away living in LA, but even worse for them it could now mean them paying an actual living wage.


I work in a University (a prestigious, highly ranked, Russell Group member before you start suggesting all we offer is BA Media Studies degrees taught by lazy left-wing 'academics'). Since the referendum result our Vice Chancellor has sent a number of worrying e-mails to staff suggesting the University is now in a precarious financial position, has recently lost out on funding for EU supported research projects due to the uncertainty we now face, and has hinted at redundancies as a method to reduce costs. For reference, the following articles offer further detail on how Brexit has already negatively impacted the University sector:

Erasmus scheme (a popular student exchange programme across European universities) may exclude British students after Brexit

Manchester warns funding for 'wonder material' graphene at risk after Brexit

UK scientists dropped from EU projects because of post-Brexit funding fears

Just wondering how all this allays with your idea that we're better off outside of the EU. For reference, Universities currently contribute 2.8% of the UK's GDP, and International Students who will mostly be affected by Brexit presently provide a net benefit of £2.3 billion to our economy each year (and before you start complaining about them supposedly using our public services - this figure already accounts for that cost). How does sabotaging all this make us better off as a country?


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