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I heard the same but there were also comments about how he was inclined to dive in and one instance where the ref advised us to replace him before he did something really rash. On another note there has also been comparisons about how previous town players have debuted at a similar age or even younger but this isn't a " once size fits all " scenario. It is certainly easier to introduce a relatively young and inexperienced forward or winger than it is to call upon a similar status full-back. Once a weakness is detected in your defence then the more experienced opposition will exploit that. Some players are also a lot further forward at that age than others , you only have to look at the early Rooney and Rajeed Stirling to see examples of this.
Yeah he showed his inexperience with his petulance against GY borough and it wasn't passion so I guess in one way PH might see that as a potential of getting sent off. Then he also showed Donny that he can defend and get up the pitch.
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Winfarrah has played less than 2 hours of Conference football. Walker has played a little over 2 hours of Conference football. Neither of these youngsters has played enough to prove themselves as yet. Each has made a number of appearances in the Trophy, but generally against lower-division teams. I'd imagine Hurst just doesn't think they are quite ready for a first team start just yet though I thought Winfarrah did reasonably well in his early season outing.
If Parslow is going to come in to play at right-back, it really does call into question the future of Bignot at the club.
Because they've not been picked. If they're not good enough why keep them? If we're short of money why sign a loanee when we have cover int he club? But mor importantly, if it's match time why sign a player who's not played for a year? If Bignot and other players signed by Hurst are not good enough, why should we think this signing will be any better?
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How many yellow cards are Pearson and Toto this season? Toto is on 4 and Pearson on 3 Brown is also on 3 So Toto is 1 yellow card away from a 1 match ban
Yes need a striker or 2, but still Boyce left we have been leaking too many goals. If we can get our defenders playing in their correct positions and stop conceding silly goals. In recent games we have conceded first and have had to chase the game.
We are a defender and 2 strikers away from a good team
We are a good manager away from being a good team.
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Well neither exactly got a look in against Gateshead or Alfreton did they? People talk about this "easing in" but it simply never happens here these days. I wouldn't say Southwell was necessarily good enough but he was another case in point. Given another years contract last year to do nothing bar a few nothing games and then released.
I can understand kids being kept on as young pros. I can understand why PH signed a loanee today. I can't understand how the two things match up.
The bruising argument just doesn't hold water when you think how much protection players get compared to the tackles Tony Ford or Dave Boylen took at 16/17/18. Get them in or you'll never know what they can do. In my opinion PH is afraid to do it but he's not afraid for the kids ............. he's afraid it could go wrong for him and he is not a risk taker.
Maybe Dave can give his views on this and then you can see it from an ex pro who came through the system. As a point of interest Dave Boylen ( according to the History of Grimsby Town) made his debut for town when he was 19 in May 1967 for the last but one game of the season and then the last game of the season. It was only in November 1967 that he became an established first teamer by which time he was 20. So not as young as is being suggested.
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September 18, 2014, 8:34pm |
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I can understand fans views on the fact that Walker and Winnfarah are not getting any experience BUT starting a game with them in the side is taking a risk too far IMO. You can bring them off the bench for 30 mins or so in a game when we are comfortably leading or to replace a tiring or injured player. This in itself will be valuable experience. The fact that they are training with the full time professionals is again getting valuable coaching experience. Up until the summer their training was with the Youth set-up which I would imagine is a lot different to what they are getting now. Their place in the squad is important but they still have a lot to learn which is why they should be eased in and not suddenly exposed to some of the " blood and thunder " that is part of some of the bruising tactics employed by certain clubs at this level.
Why weren't they brought on then when 5 up at Gateshead or Alfy?
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Why weren't they brought on then when 5 up at Gateshead or Alfy?
Obviously I can't answer that , only PH can. But it would have been the ideal time to introduce them if any of them had been on the bench.
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Winfarrah was brought on at 4-0 v Alfreton.
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Because they've not been picked. If they're not good enough why keep them? If we're short of money why sign a loanee when we have cover int he club? But mor importantly, if it's match time why sign a player who's not played for a year? If Bignot and other players signed by Hurst are not good enough, why should we think this signing will be any better?
I'm surprised we've signed Parslow, but he is very experienced and I assume this is why he has come in. I'd have thought that one of the youngsters might get some game time but perhaps Hurst doesn't think they are up to it at the moment? As I said before, not sure what this means for Bignot. On his way out before too long, perhaps?
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