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wtf abdul? ruining a perfectly good anti-hurst rant with a fact? you can't do that.

boo hurst boo!! is what you need to be posting


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wtf abdul? ruining a perfectly good anti-hurst rant with a fact? you can't do that.

boo hurst boo!! is what you need to be posting


Blimey you post some drivel.


GTFC
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How many of the youth players who have left the club in recent seasons have gone on to have successful careers either in our division or in higher leagues?


1, under the current manager, another is performing and scoring at the level below.
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So how many youth players have Hurst or Hurst & Scott given a chance and are still here?


A chance does not always mean an extended run in the team, sometimes it is easy to see someone is not quite ready from one game or short bursts but off the top of my head the following young players have all made appearances since joining the club. Btw I have taken young to mean U23, (the max age anybody can play for England U21's).

Paul Walker
Caine Winffarrah
Ellis Humble
Charlie I'anson
Andi Thanoj
Dayle Southwell
James McKeown
Craig Clay
Andy Cook
Aristote Nsiala
Shaun Pearson
Anthony Church

Even players like LJL and Thomas were 23 when they signed.

We are hardly a club going round signing people towards the end of their careers.
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I think the fact that we're not bringing many youngsters through the ranks (from youth to first team) isn't really too surprising. After all, the way the systems are set up now, the 'better' prospects tend to be hoovered up by the academies of League clubs who still receive decent funding in comparison to Conference clubs, such as ourselves. Signing on to Non-League GTFC doesn't seem like as good a prospect for youngsters as signing on to League One Scunny. Sad, but true.

The whole, "must play the youngsters" meme we're hearing all the time doesn't really seem to consider that they might just not be quite good enough. Obviously, I'd be very happy if our own young players could make the grade but the assumption that the only thing holding them back is the failure of the management to select them doesn't seem to be based on any evidence other than wishful thinking.
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I think the fact that we're not bringing many youngsters through the ranks (from youth to first team) isn't really too surprising. After all, the way the systems are set up now, the 'better' prospects tend to be hoovered up by the academies of League clubs who still receive decent funding in comparison to Conference clubs, such as ourselves. Signing on to Non-League GTFC doesn't seem like as good a prospect for youngsters as signing on to League One Scunny. Sad, but true.

The whole, "must play the youngsters" meme we're hearing all the time doesn't really seem to consider that they might just not be quite good enough. Obviously, I'd be very happy if our own young players could make the grade but the assumption that the only thing holding them back is the failure of the management to select them doesn't seem to be based on any evidence other than wishful thinking.


Agree with most of that, although sometimes we need to understand that you need to play to get experience.
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I think the fact that we're not bringing many youngsters through the ranks (from youth to first team) isn't really too surprising. After all, the way the systems are set up now, the 'better' prospects tend to be hoovered up by the academies of League clubs who still receive decent funding in comparison to Conference clubs, such as ourselves. Signing on to Non-League GTFC doesn't seem like as good a prospect for youngsters as signing on to League One Scunny. Sad, but true.

The whole, "must play the youngsters" meme we're hearing all the time doesn't really seem to consider that they might just not be quite good enough. Obviously, I'd be very happy if our own young players could make the grade but the assumption that the only thing holding them back is the failure of the management to select them doesn't seem to be based on any evidence other than wishful thinking.


We may as well pack in the Youth set-up if that's the case. And not give pro contracts to the likes of Winfarrah, Humble, Walker etc.


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For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
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Maybe Dave can give his views on this and then you can see it from an ex pro who came through the system. As a point of interest Dave Boylen ( according to the History of Grimsby Town) made his debut for town when he was 19 in May 1967 for the last but one game of the season and then the last game of the season.  It was only in November 1967 that he became an established first teamer by which time he was 20. So not as young as is being suggested.


Mid-May to November is no tie at all in football terms. 3 months are the closed season so only 3 months of playing time.


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I think all of our 3 first year pro's show promise and I hope we persevere with them. Clearly PH thinks they have something or he would not have offered them a contract. The fact that they have had limited chances so far does not mean he has given up on them at all and I am sure when the right opportunity occurs they will get their chance. In the meantime patience is required from all concerned and if one or two have to go on loan to get some games in then so be it. Winfarrah did that last season and came back better.
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I think all of our 3 first year pro's show promise and I hope we persevere with them. Clearly PH thinks they have something or he would not have offered them a contract. The fact that they have had limited chances so far does not mean he has given up on them at all and I am sure when the right opportunity occurs they will get their chance. In the meantime patience is required from all concerned and if one or two have to go on loan to get some games in then so be it. Winfarrah did that last season and came back better.


And has managed how many first team appearances?


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