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Perkins
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well ok I will simplify it for you ...

can you show me this imaginary post were as you put it "knocking a player before he has even played and no wonder no one wants to come here" ?

yep there isn't one, just you and a few other rose tinters trying to justify we need another defender


Like I said , not referring to any of YOUR posts in particular, as they are usually too grammatically mystifying to read, but you will find many instances on various threads that whenever we sign or bring in a player on loan he, or the Manager has been judged before he has even played. And I,m sure many of us would rather view events through "rose tinters" than than through the gloom of a rectal hole.













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Still seems daft though Tom.

Tony Ford was 16 when he first played in the first team, Kevin Moore 18, Kevin Drinkell 17, Ryan Bennett 17 ......... plenty of other examples from days when the game was a lot rougher and we were playing at a higher level. If these kids are good enough they should play. If not, release them altogether and free up the cash. We shouldn't need to be pratting about with a months loan for cover.


Maybe it's not for just a month,

He could stay for longer, when Thomas is fit, the others will be suspended,

He could end up playing a few games by Christmas.


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This is what happens when you sign a player thats not on a long season loan, plays well then goes back to his parent club.  It causes issues with the defense in terms of having to get to know each other again.  It happened when Nathan Pond went back and we struggled without him.


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I can understand fans views on the fact that Walker and Winnfarah are not getting any experience BUT starting a game with them in the side is taking a risk too far IMO. You can bring them off the bench for 30 mins or so in a game when we are comfortably leading or to replace a tiring or injured player. This in itself will be valuable experience. The fact that they are training with the full time professionals is again getting valuable coaching experience. Up until the summer their training was with the Youth set-up which I would imagine is a lot different to what they are getting now. Their place in the squad is important but they still have a lot to learn which is why they should be eased in and not suddenly exposed to some of the " blood and thunder " that is part of some of the bruising tactics employed by certain clubs at this level.


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Quoted from rancido
I can understand fans views on the fact that Walker and Winnfarah are not getting any experience BUT starting a game with them in the side is taking a risk too far IMO. You can bring them off the bench for 30 mins or so in a game when we are comfortably leading or to replace a tiring or injured player. This in itself will be valuable experience. The fact that they are training with the full time professionals is again getting valuable coaching experience. Up until the summer their training was with the Youth set-up which I would imagine is a lot different to what they are getting now. Their place in the squad is important but they still have a lot to learn which is why they should be eased in and not suddenly exposed to some of the " blood and thunder " that is part of some of the bruising tactics employed by certain clubs at this level.


Wholeheartedly agree.

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A bit like what happened to Bennett and I'Anson if your good enough age shouldn't be a factor but I kind of agree Rancido giving them some minutes from the bench would be a good start but it is a risk although I heard he did very well (Walker) in preseason although a bit different when points are at stake.


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Quoted from Perkins


Like I said , not referring to any of YOUR posts in particular, as they are usually too grammatically mystifying to read, but you will find many instances on various threads that whenever we sign or bring in a player on loan he, or the Manager has been judged before he has even played. And I,m sure many of us would rather view events through "rose tinters" than than through the gloom of a rectal hole.



I suggest you read back this ^ post and have a laugh to yourself before you judge anyone on grammar  


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A bit like what happened to Bennett and I'Anson if your good enough age shouldn't be a factor but I kind of agree Rancido giving them some minutes from the bench would be a good start but it is a risk although I heard he did very well (Walker) in preseason although a bit different when points are at stake.



I heard the same but there were also comments about how he was inclined to dive in and one instance where the ref advised us to replace him before he did something really rash.
On another note there has also been comparisons about how previous town players have debuted at a similar age or even younger but this isn't a " once size fits all " scenario. It is certainly easier to introduce a relatively young and inexperienced forward or winger than it is to call upon a similar status full-back. Once a weakness is detected in your defence then the more experienced opposition will exploit that. Some players are also a lot further forward at that age than others , you only have to look at the early Rooney and Rajeed  Stirling to see examples of this.


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Quoted from rancido
I can understand fans views on the fact that Walker and Winnfarah are not getting any experience BUT starting a game with them in the side is taking a risk too far IMO. You can bring them off the bench for 30 mins or so in a game when we are comfortably leading or to replace a tiring or injured player. This in itself will be valuable experience. The fact that they are training with the full time professionals is again getting valuable coaching experience. Up until the summer their training was with the Youth set-up which I would imagine is a lot different to what they are getting now. Their place in the squad is important but they still have a lot to learn which is why they should be eased in and not suddenly exposed to some of the " blood and thunder " that is part of some of the bruising tactics employed by certain clubs at this level.


Well neither exactly got a look in against Gateshead or Alfreton did they? People talk about this "easing in" but it simply never happens here these days. I wouldn't say Southwell was necessarily good enough but he was another case in point. Given another years contract last year to do nothing bar a few nothing games and then released.

I can understand kids being kept on as young pros. I can understand why PH signed a loanee today. I can't understand how the two things match up.

The bruising argument just doesn't hold water when you think how much protection players get compared to the tackles Tony Ford or Dave Boylen took at 16/17/18. Get them in or you'll never know what they can do. In my opinion PH is afraid to do it but he's not afraid for the kids ............. he's afraid it could go wrong for him and he is not a risk taker.



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If Scott had stayed as manager instead Cook would be playing in the Champions League.


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