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Didnt big gates get opened to let the fans out? but instead the fans outside used it as a gateway to get in the ground?
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September 25, 2012, 7:13pm |
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Didnt big gates get opened to let the fans out? but instead the fans outside used it as a gateway to get in the ground?
according to someone who was there (and not all these "world authorities" on the events of that day that reside on here) that is about the crux of what happened. someone in charge of that gate was told to open it,due to pressure from outside the gate. people keep skirting around the issue why were fences up in the first place ? answer,football fans of that time behaved like wild animals (not all of them but a significant number) that is the real tragedy,if people knew how to behave like decent law abiding citizens,then fences wouldn't exist would they? its wrong to say those idiots trying to get into the game without tickets had no part in what happened that day,deep down some people who went to that game know they have something to answer for,if this upsets people on here then tough,i believe it wasn't all the fault of the stewards and police on that day,yes,some coppers at the top tried to cover their mistakes up and that is truly disgusting, but for everyone to say that some liverpool fans weren't partly responsible is sycophantic bullshit of the highest order.
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September 25, 2012, 7:18pm |
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FFS, don't some of you read anything? Bladerunner, wtf? Go join a 9/11 theory forum or something. That's the most shameful, pitiful thing I've read anywhere. 40 odd thousand pages of documents and you spout shite like that. Why the hell was this thread dragged back anyway.
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September 25, 2012, 7:22pm |
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nice to see the steaua Bucharest flag being waved in the kop at anfield,as a reminder to all evertonians about how they were denied a cup in that year . this won't sit well for a lot of you but i think this inquiry has been "engineered" by the authourities to absolve blame from the liverpool fans to "shut them up" in the hope that this will be the end of it,i realy feel for the families of the 96,but theres still a lot we don't know about that day,both from the police AND some liverpool fans who in my opinion were responsible in some way for those events. bt w im no bitter blue,manc or whatever,just say it as i see it.
I can believe some of that ,the fact that the arch bishop of Liverpool was part of the inquiry sort of tells me it wasnt the most independent. Ive said before that many different factors were to blame that day ,the poor Policing and the fans were just some of them but could be forgiven as unintentional. One thing is for sure though the police and their cover up afterwards was intentional and can never be forgiven
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roundballovalhole |
September 25, 2012, 7:23pm |
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Bladerunner. . unnecessary g0bshite of the week!
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bladerunnner |
September 25, 2012, 7:27pm |
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FFS, don't some of you read anything? Bladerunner, wtf? Go join a 9/11 theory forum or something. That's the most shameful, pitiful thing I've read anywhere. 40 odd thousand pages of documents and you spout shite like that. Why the hell was this thread dragged back anyway.
why is it shamefull? im only saying what i believed happened based on the evidence of people i have spoke to WHO WERE THERE, who was it that rushed through the gates then ? if not liverpool fans then who? magic faries? its not as clear cut as people think,the way its been shown it seems as though it was all down to the police,no serving police officer at the time of that would have nothing more than peoples safety and well being at the forefront of his/her mind,they were put in a position of impossible odds,and let down badly by thier supieriors.
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FFS, don't some of you read anything? Bladerunner, wtf? Go join a 9/11 theory forum or something. That's the most shameful, pitiful thing I've read anywhere. 40 odd thousand pages of documents and you spout shite like that. Why the hell was this thread dragged back anyway.
Like I said earlier - some people don't read and some people only want to read what they want to read. Of course there are thousands of documents. There have been inquiries on inquiries and statements on statements and records on records - all on paper. But - the biggest but of all - there are no statements from those late comer fans who created the crush. There are statements about road works, traffic jams and late coaches but no statements about behaviour from the other fans outside the ground who arrived late from the pub. They will never, ever admit to that because they daren't. They are sh1t scared of admitting that any Liverpool person might just have been a teeny weeny little bit naughty. So we will never get all the pieces of this jigsaw together if we have an inquiry every year for the next decade.
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bladerunnner |
September 25, 2012, 7:32pm |
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Bladerunner. . unnecessary g0bshite of the week!
thats why the media is controlled,so idiots like you can be brainwashed into believing anything.........................im getting the word......pleb
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bladerunnner |
September 25, 2012, 7:35pm |
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Like I said earlier - some people don't read and some people only want to read what they want to read. Of course there are thousands of documents. There have been inquiries on inquiries and statements on statements and records on records - all on paper.
But - the biggest but of all - there are no statements from those late comer fans who created the crush. There are statements about road works, traffic jams and late coaches but no statements about behaviour from the other fans outside the ground who arrived late from the pub. They will never, ever admit to that because they daren't. They are sh1t scared of admitting that any Liverpool person might just have been a teeny weeny little bit naughty.
So we will never get all the pieces of this jigsaw together if we have an inquiry every year for the next decade.
on no,don't dare suggest it may have been something to do with them after all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you will be accused of "scouseism" a great post btw ,bravely bucking the trend to conform to everyone elses touchy feely opinions.
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bladerunnner |
September 25, 2012, 7:41pm |
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Prestwich mariner. . . Your post could easily pass for a letter in Viz!
i come on here for (sometimes heated) debates..................you just want to abuse people whose opinion differs to yours= you=nazi.
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