Pre Match Interview

Quoted from Lincoln Mariner 56

Pretty much as I remember it as well and thought Clifton missed the goal completely but. I was probably too busy cursing to see where his feeble effort ended up.

This point though actually raises a much deeper debate as if either chance is scored whatever occurs afterwards is totally different to what actually happened. The game is restarted at a different point thus every touch which then takes place is different to what actually occurred as everyone is in different positions plays a different pass etc.

One for the theoretical gifted or maybe we need data saying if you score from your first chance rather than miss it how many of the later chances would in reality have been created. Think this supports Lew’s dislike of data as scoring goals may actually reduce your XG whereas missing chances may increase it!,

Anyway given me an headache just typing this eye opening revelation and all because Clifton missed a sitter!!

Exactly - you can interpret it any way you like, to prove any point you like and is ideal for taking the heat out of having been tonked once again on home turf, by saying such and such a stat actually showed we should have had the 3 points, honest 'guv.

If the xg is "very good" but we also ship goals for fun a reasonable conclusion would be the side isn't functioning at all well. But then you conclude if we tighten up at the back we will be fine, but then the chances dry up at the other end because tightening up changes the dynamic of the team which is why we were creating the chances. On and on you go down the rabbit hole of stats trying to make sense of it all, but it's a waste of time anyway because the dynamics of next weeks game is completely different.

Dave Challinor without the use of any data could improve our side overnight by getting the balance of the moving parts right.

Quoted from Maringer

I don't think that's true, is it? Didn't Green hit the ball straight at their keeper who caught it? Clifton's chance was close to that one, but I don't think it was the same passage of play. Can't remember too clearly these days due to memory problems caused by a medical issue, but that's my impression! I don't want to look back at the highlights as it was too depressing the first time around...

Yes apologies, it was Green's chance first but the keeper saved it then he and a defender tried to play it out from the back, we intercepted it and put the ball through to Clifton who pushed it wide, all within about 30 seconds I think so effectively if Green had scored Clifton's chance would not have happened so it would never have been 3-2 to us at that point.

Quoted from arryarryarry

Yes apologies, it was Green's chance first but the keeper saved it then he and a defender tried to play it out from the back, we intercepted it and put the ball through to Clifton who pushed it wide, all within about 30 seconds I think so effectively if Green had scored Clifton's chance would not have happened so it would never have been 3-2 to us at that point.

Green slots it, back at 2-2 Donny then fall apart hit by wave after wave of Crewe 20/21 style Total Football…then DA wakes up a bit moist and sticky, whereas all PH ever dreamt about was winning 1-0 away at Bradford with us rock solid 5-4-1 shape…which wet dream do us fans want our manager to have…

I’m obviously in the minority but I thought that was one of DA’s best interviews since he came to the club. As has already been mentioned, he’s hardly going to come out with a rousing rendition of “we’re sh*t and we know we are” – he has to try and motivate this group and get them believing that they’re better than they are. Whether we like it or not, it is this group we’re stuck with until the end of the season and so it’s this group whose responsibility it is to get us out of this mess.

For a man overseeing a remarkably poor sequence of results, imo he seemed calm, gave measured answers and backed up his position pretty well, in the face of some decent questions by Matt Dean.

The explanation around Hunt was very good, and made a good stab at proving that he is able to identify a weakness (xG) and improve it (going from 20th to 11th in the table in that metric). He also started to point to improvements in our defending which was… err… brave, but I thought even that was a pretty good attempt.

Interesting we had a big data meeting with 21st Group this week. I wonder if that was a bit of a “prove that what you’re claiming re improvements is backed up in the data” thing from the board, similar to what Hurst went through before? Annoyingly, we don’t have access to the depth of data that the club does, and so us lot have to slum it with the basics.

Quoted from kafunanapar140909

I’m obviously in the minority but I thought that was one of DA’s best interviews since he came to the club. As has already been mentioned, he’s hardly going to come out with a rousing rendition of “we’re sh*t and we know we are” – he has to try and motivate this group and get them believing that they’re better than they are. Whether we like it or not, it is this group we’re stuck with until the end of the season and so it’s this group whose responsibility it is to get us out of this mess.

For a man overseeing a remarkably poor sequence of results, imo he seemed calm, gave measured answers and backed up his position pretty well, in the face of some decent questions by Matt Dean.

The explanation around Hunt was very good, and made a good stab at proving that he is able to identify a weakness (xG) and improve it (going from 20th to 11th in the table in that metric). He also started to point to improvements in our defending which was… err… brave, but I thought even that was a pretty good attempt.

Interesting we had a big data meeting with 21st Group this week. I wonder if that was a bit of a “prove that what you’re claiming re improvements is backed up in the data” thing from the board, similar to what Hurst went through before? Annoyingly, we don’t have access to the depth of data that the club does, and so us lot have to slum it with the basics.

I have no idea what xg data is or any other data that is showing we have improved all I see is us getting stuffed most weekends and lying 3rd from bottom of the EFL.

If you can’t  defend and you don’t know what you’re doing and you’re not concentrating and motivated the stats count for f*ck all. That’s what’s going on. We need to face it and change it, starting tomorrow.

Quoted from arryarryarry

I have no idea what xg data is or any other data that is showing we have improved all I see is us getting stuffed most weekends and lying 3rd from bottom of the EFL.

I mean it's likely utter nonsense but ya know alchemists gotta get paid so there we go we're improving. I guess we'll see if the proofs in the pudding tomorrow, but even if we don't we'll be told that the data says we should have picked up 12 points from 18.

Been another overreaction to the interview but it’s to be expected now.

He’s right in a lot of what he says, but some of needs to actually start coming true instead of being just words.

We probably are creating more chances, we probably are conceding goals we shouldn’t and we probably should’ve picked up more points. However, we keep getting hammered. If the stats are correct, then results SHOULD follow, but it’s a very precarious position he finds himself in right now.

What doesn’t help though is fans ripping it to bits every week for the sake of it. If we pick up points away from home tomorrow, part of our disasterous home performances (for 2 seasons) might be able to be explained quite well…

The fact Doncaster scored 5, despite their xG being less than 0.5 last week tells you everything you need to know about us and that metric. Stop overcomplicating it.

I really want DA to do well but he is doing my head with all his waffle.

I don't know how we managed years ago before all this data was used.

Yes we were the better side but lost 5-1 ?????

Or we are the better side but lost 6-1  .  Morecambe were the better side by miles the other night but lost 3-0.

Well I hoped we are rubbish tomorrow and Morecambe play really well.

Then we will come away with 3 points