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| February 23, 2024, 3:55pm |
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But, in general, the number of good chances you create (xG), indicates how likely it is that you will score a goal. If you create more good chances, you are likely to score more goals. You surely can't deny that?
It's obviously not the be-all and end-all, but it is important. We've spent years bemoaning the fact that Hurst's teams didn't score enough goals and this would obviously have shown through in xG calculations (if we were looking at them back then).
On the other hand, a capable and well-drilled defence should be able to reduce the xG of the opposing team. If you can accept that it is possible to defend well enough to stop the opposition team having a sniff, surely you can accept that a team can attack well enough to create more goalscoring chances? All that xG does is give an indication that a team is creating good chances and a low xG doesn't mean that the opposition isn't able to whack in a 40-yarder to win a game with their only shot on goal.
I certainly wouldn't be basing all training around increasing xG as Artell has indicated he might actually be doing (!), but it certainly has its uses.
It's all nonsense. As Grim Rob pointed out earlier the ability to create or defend goals is largely dependent on the state of the individual game. Had Stockport not taken their foot off the pedal all the stats for that game would be different. All it is an in depth statistical review of what's happened, but it has no bearing on what happens next. |
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| GrimRob |
| February 23, 2024, 4:01pm |
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Artell mentioned something about the two sitters but they came in the same passage of play, if Clifton had scored Green wouldn't have had the chance.
Another reason why xG is a misleading metric. |
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| grassbandits |
| February 23, 2024, 4:16pm |
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I'm not sure how much I'd be pleased our XG has improved if it means we're shipping buckets at the same time.
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| Swansea_Mariner |
| February 23, 2024, 4:19pm |
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Cognitive disonnense, we were battered by Doncaster but we were by far the better side. Ok we get it and start smiling again.
Maybe eyeballs are faulty and the data is right, I feel like I've entered a parallel universe.
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| DB |
| February 23, 2024, 4:20pm |
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I thought his first interview was a case of bullish!t baffles brains, particularly when he talked of losing by fine margins ( now where I have I heard that before? ). Apparently, we have been losing by fine margins 6 -1, 5 - 1 etc. and we beat Morecambe at home by a fine margin of 3 - 2. He makes a ridiculous example of fine margins and where did he get that we should have gone in 4 - 2 up at halftime against Donny? Bloody hell it was a peno we scored and nothing from open play.
Matt Dean's interview was only slightly better as he did explain the Hunt situation. Let's hope that tomorrow's game is better considering both he and Shaun watched the Walsall game.
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| HertsGTFC |
| February 23, 2024, 4:33pm |
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Caught them both now and actually to be fair to Artell I think the rationale behind Hunt makes sense, though I'd be concerned if we picked up a couple of MF injuries.
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| February 23, 2024, 4:47pm |
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I don't think that's true, is it? Didn't Green hit the ball straight at their keeper who caught it? Clifton's chance was close to that one, but I don't think it was the same passage of play. Can't remember too clearly these days due to memory problems caused by a medical issue, but that's my impression! I don't want to look back at the highlights as it was too depressing the first time around...
Pretty much as I remember it as well and thought Clifton missed the goal completely but. I was probably too busy cursing to see where his feeble effort ended up. This point though actually raises a much deeper debate as if either chance is scored whatever occurs afterwards is totally different to what actually happened. The game is restarted at a different point thus every touch which then takes place is different to what actually occurred as everyone is in different positions plays a different pass etc. One for the theoretical gifted or maybe we need data saying if you score from your first chance rather than miss it how many of the later chances would in reality have been created. Think this supports Lew’s dislike of data as scoring goals may actually reduce your XG whereas missing chances may increase it!, Anyway given me an headache just typing this eye opening revelation and all because Clifton missed a sitter!! |
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| Yoda |
| February 23, 2024, 4:57pm |
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I have watched a few old youtube videos of DA and he doesn’t come across well at all how he interviewed well for us i don’t know. I think he looks a floundering baffoon surely they must of interviewed some other candidates or did they.
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| BrMarin |
| February 23, 2024, 5:12pm |
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I have watched a few old youtube videos of DA and he doesn’t come across well at all how he interviewed well for us i don’t know. I think he looks a floundering baffoon surely they must of interviewed some other candidates or did they.
I'd love to know who was interviewed 🙂 |
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| Mappers |
| February 23, 2024, 5:26pm |
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I'd love to know who was interviewed 🙂
Steve Morrison who isn't doing particularly well at Sutton Talks with The Cowleys (confirmed by them) but not sure if that was official or just informal . Don't know any others |
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