Anti-racism protests

Quoted from Boris Johnson

well thee wont be any left wing condemnation of it, as it does not fit the narrative.

The guy is a terrorist. He has been condemned by all major politicians regardless of political colour. He should (and will) feel the full force of British law. I'm unashamedly left wing and condemn him totally.
I do however save some of my condemnation for a government which knew about this guy-had him under observation etc but failed to prevent him carrying out his crimes..

Quoted from smokey111

Why would anybody not condemn the senseless murder of three innocent people by a radical extremist? A crime is a crime. Stop trying to incite even more division.

I don't think that you can create more division than Islamist extremists killing non Islamists because of their beliefs. This wasn't just a crime it was a hate crime, stop trying to make it sound as if it isn't.

Quoted from arryarryarry

I don't think that you can create more division than Islamist extremists killing non Islamists because of their beliefs. This wasn't just a crime it was a hate crime, stop trying to make it sound as if it isn't.

Undoubtedly a hate crime. At no point would I suggest otherwise. I maintain you are trying to incite more division and hate. He will face the full force of the law. How can you entwine it with left wing politics and BLM? I honestly despair.

Are you truly ignorant to the systemic racism faced by blacks across Britain and America for the last 300 years. Don't muddy the waters by trying to link the heinous murders in Reading.

Burnley condemn 'White Lives Matter' banner flown over Etihad Stadium during Manchester City clash.

https://www.standard.co.uk/spo.....tadium-a4476736.html

Quoted from smokey111

Undoubtedly a hate crime. At no point would I suggest otherwise. I maintain you are trying to incite more division and hate. He will face the full force of the law. How can you entwine it with left wing politics and BLM? I honestly despair.

Are you truly ignorant to the systemic racism faced by blacks across Britain and America for the last 300 years. Don't muddy the waters by trying to link the heinous murders in Reading.

You said a crime is a crime, this wasn't just any crime as I stated and where the intercourse did I bring left wing politics into it? You are making things up again to put forward your agenda and I haven't suggested anything faced by racism against Blacks and are you truly ignorant of the thousands of people murdered in the name of Islam?

Quoted from arryarryarry

You said a crime is a crime, this wasn't just any crime as I stated and where the intercourse did I bring left wing politics into it? You are making things up again to put forward your agenda and I haven't suggested anything faced by racism against Blacks and are you truly ignorant of the thousands of people murdered in the name of Islam?

What is my agenda?

And I stand corrected as regards the left wing politics comment, that was another poster.

Do you oppose the  black lives matter movement?

Quoted from promotion plaice

Burnley condemn 'White Lives Matter' banner flown over Etihad Stadium during Manchester City clash.

https://www.standard.co.uk/spo.....tadium-a4476736.html

So did Pep Guardiola as well, which is great to see, called for fighting injustice all around the world, just wonder if he was inlcuding his Saudi Arabian paymaster in that?  Wonder if he wanted to call out Saudi Arabia on its record on Racism, Anti-semitism, persecution of homosexuals etc,etc, or should we just allow this virtue signalling bullshit to go on without check?

Quoted from smokey111

Do you oppose the  black lives matter movement?

I oppose violence in the name of any movement whether it be black, white, or pink with yellow spots.  I think as a movemebt BLM has a confrontational aspect to it, which in the end will only see the rsie again of far right factions. I think it could end up doing more harm than good.

I think the rise of the far right precedes BLM, it’s no coincidence that in times of austerity and swathes of cutbacks to public services the far right, as they have done in the past have capitalised and reached out in their bigoted and generally awful way to those disaffected or those who are desperate to belong to something.

Their rhetoric is hateful and hurtful but now, as has in the past, been shrouded in nationalistic ideology to attract folk...queen and country and all that balderdash. Where a poppy. Proud of dear old Blighty and all that jazz.

As has been explained countless times, BLM isn’t actually about colour of skin or ethnicity, equally, claiming All Lives Matter is just hilarious, becauee again, the people chanting that don’t actually fully grasp the skewed concept of those right wingers promoting it.

And again we see it, terrorist attack, people saying where’s the protests blah blah...forgetting that the culprit was arrested and will receive justice...but as Barra pointed out, perhaps those queen and country loving types could ask the question of how a man remained on a watch list for a sustained period and still wasn’t stopped, even though we do in fact have ways and means of doing that legally...perhaps that should be the protest...

Quoted from aldi_01

, as has in the past, been shrouded in nationalistic ideology to attract folk...queen and country and all that balderdash. Where a poppy. Proud of dear old Blighty and all that jazz.

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Thats not rubbish.The national front hijacked the bulldog and the union jack which then tarnished these symbols.

A lot of brave soldiers have given up their lives and been horrifically injured for trying to serve a greater good when serving their country's. Likewise some when they come back to normal life cant cope with the horrors they have seen and sadly end up taking their own lives.

Similar slogans have also been used to symbolise the military in standing up for a greater good eg Pro Deo et patria ("for God and country") is a Latin phrase used as the motto of many families, military regiments and educational institutions.