Trouble in Cleethorpes

Quoted from ska face

So your point is that there should be something to stop people fighting in the street? Rules of some description, which people should abide by and be punished for breaking them?

Almost, I dunno, like laws?

No, my point is people shouldn't need the police or laws for that matter to prevent them from being hooligans, they should recognise that it is a nonsensical activity. What you have just implied with your comment there is that people needs laws as we are too stupid to recognise right from wrong

There seems a funny sense of Karma about the whole thing. When town fans went over to Alfreton via Sheffield. We didn't exactly cover ourselves in glory that day did we. Seems like the trouble Saturday could of been a backlash. The club's statement is a bit daft however. Every football fan has a duty to behave

Quoted from Mariner93er

No, my point is people shouldn't need the police or laws for that matter to prevent them from being hooligans, they should recognise that it is a nonsensical activity. What you have just implied with your comment there is that people needs laws as we are too stupid to recognise right from wrong

Well as a species we are!

This sort of thing as been going on for hundreds or even thousands of years, just because normal people see it as futile isnt going to stop it. It needs effective policing and preventative measures, always has, always will.

A new stadium isnt going to change it but better policing and a club (including staff who are involved in this 'planning') need to get their head out their bottom and stop playing points scoring games ( leave that for the on field chaps)

Quoted from jock dock tower

I remember when they were called lager louts in the right wing hang em and flog em press. That always upset me as a drinker of Bass mild, as I too wanted to be seen as a thug but mild lout just didn't have that ring to it?

Yes! Bass Mild - I knew something good would come out of this thread!

Anyone that thinks that a new stadium on the outskirts of town would stop visiting fans going to Cleethorpes for a drink on a sunny day hasn't got a clue , ethyl still all head that way pre match wherever the ground is built

Quoted from excusebeef

There seems a funny sense of Karma about the whole thing. When town fans went over to Alfreton via Sheffield. We didn't exactly cover ourselves in glory that day did we. Seems like the trouble Saturday could of been a backlash. The club's statement is a bit daft however. Every football fan has a duty to behave

Are you Hoddle in disguise? !!
I'll  bet you that at least 90% (and that's conservative) of those adversely affected on Saturday never even went to Alfreton, never mind bloody Sheffield.
Karma was the young lads steaming across the railway tracks and getting slapped. Karma is NOT the landlady of a pub that raises a lot of money for charity getting her car bricked. Or the Market stall holders loosing hundreds of pounds.
Karma my @rse.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Yes! Bass Mild - I knew something good would come out of this thread!

I am frankly p!ssed off with the moans and groans from the publicans about how much they lost in takings after the police asked them to close for a couple of hours

FFS how much more did they take over and above their normal Saturday 9am trade whilst filling the Sheffield visitors up with ale all morning?

Those town fans(really?) that got a beating on sea wall surely couldn't of gone to the game! By the time we all got out the police blocked anyone going down the side streets, so how did they get there? (must of been waiting in which case how come the police didn't know of their presence)  As regular town fans we all know who they are, not by name or looks just the fact that these people(really?) are hanging round B.P when we play a local side.  Therefore I ask what is the point of banning orders when they never go to the game, its like banning me from McDonald's when Ive never used one and never will.  1/4 of the sheff U fans never watched the game(stood with the back to the pitch) and got upset when the police wouldn't let them out at half time.  Sadly there is no effective deterrent that I or anyone else can realistically come up with that works.   Excellent point made by Ipswin(post above), really think we should campaign to bring back the old licensing laws of opening hours, this country is not sensible enough to have European opening times, just walk down Freemo on a Saturday morning and see what some people are having for breakfast in the pub windows. I really do despair  

Quoted from Civvy at last

Are you Hoddle in disguise? !!
I'll  bet you that at least 90% (and that's conservative) of those adversely affected on Saturday never even went to Alfreton, never mind bloody Sheffield.
Karma was the young lads steaming across the railway tracks and getting slapped. Karma is NOT the landlady of a pub that raises a lot of money for charity getting her car bricked. Or the Market stall holders loosing hundreds of pounds.
Karma my @rse.

Alright calm down, talk about missing the point here. As I said in my post, I think all fans have a duty to behave regardless. I don't think you can be sure that the way we behaved over there did not have a direct influence on events on Saturday. Town fans left Sheffield in a total sh!t tip, smashed glass all over the city and police getting attacked. Unfortunately the d!ck heads get the headlines as usual

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Yes! Bass Mild - I knew something good would come out of this thread!

Always imbibed at Billy Cairns's on  Saturday's, pre match, whenever we did our weekly shop down Freemo Market. Those were the days,