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July 24, 2016, 1:31pm
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Yesterday was a total police failure , we pay a so called football liaison officer a good wage out of our local taxes , yesterday he never had a clue.
The police never really seemed to locate Grimsby's mob , they seemed happy to stand outside all the high street and market place pubs full of United  fans and thought that was good enough.
It was obvious the Grimsby lot was going to make an aperance and they managed to do it twice in the market place and once in the high street .
After the match that should have been the end of it as the police know exactly where everyone is and where they need to go to get home .
The trouble on the train tracks and train station was totally avoidable .
I'm not blaming your average Bobby with bottles ect being thrown at them but they was badly led yesterday and heads should roll


Whenever we get a sell out in the away end their is always disorder. It happened when Wednesday came pre season a few years back, it happened for the Scunny and Huddersfield games and now it happened yesterday . But when you are drafting police In from different forces and areas then you can't blame the plod for not knowing the local area and what direction people are likely to come from.
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July 24, 2016, 1:53pm
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I wasn't blaming the average Bobby , I was blaming the officer that gets paid to be in charge of policing Grimsby games
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Am i missing something........clearly i am.  Maybe some of you should be working for the old bill.  How do you know this was going to happen and excuse my ignorance but when was the last time we played sheffield utd?  Has there always been confliction between us and them? If so then i understand some of the comments but if not.....well how can anyone know this was going to happen.....even i didn't know.


Meza are you serious? There has always been some bother with Yorkshire clubs on a Saturday or Bank Holiday summer fixture, some more than others as far back as I can remember in the 60s & 70s. I can remember as a kid being stoned by Leeds fans on Harrington Street on one such day. The Town mob know where the opposition will be on a day like yesterday and will hang around St Peter's Avenue and the sea front streets waiting for a chance. It happens every time.

Sometimes it can't be helped if the fixture list goes that way but this was a "friendly" and was sorted out by the club, so absolutely avoidable. Not that I expect the club to accept even one tiny spot of responsibility, that's not the way the club works is it? Look out in the GT tomorrow for those magic words "small minority", "anyone found",  "ban from games" .......etc.,  all the usual PR claptrap.

Of course it's not right that a minority should dictate fixtures but the minority dictated yesterday in any case. So which is better, playing your friendly against a non-Yorkie side or dodging fights while you try to queue for your fish and chips?


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I don't really care if 2 people, or 2 groups of people want to fight/brawl/smash everything up etc. In fact if that's their thing I'd say go for it to the lads, but at the very least I'd want from these people is do it well out the way out of sight away from the average Joe and kids enjoying a day out.
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July 24, 2016, 2:14pm

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Ron ive never been to a yorkshire match involving Leeds or Sheffield so i wouldn't know.  Not the clubs fault in my eyes more of the police tbf.  


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What a depressing read this is! Sometimes, i really despair of the depths to which perfectly sane (or perhaps not) humans can descend when, supposedly, enjoying a day out to watch their favourite team. Yesterday, on my way from the Kingsway to the match, I deliberately avoided the High Street when I heard the mindless drink-fuelled chanting. Returning from the game along Grimsby Road, numerous police vans from the dog unit passed, blue lights flashing and sirens blaring, plus helicopter overhead, and I had cause to reflect on whether football watching, with its moronic element, is really worth it in the end, particularly at my age. This morning, and unrelated to my comments above, I walked along the promenade before my drive home and was shocked by the huge volume of litter everywhere, and not least on the beach, glass bottles included. Cleethorpes, the town in which I was born almost 70 years ago, seemingly tries really hard with its floral displays, to provide a very pleasant environment for its visitors and I don't understand why people seem unable to dispose of their litter in the conspicuously numerous bins which the council provides. Just why are so many people so 'degenerate', I wonder?    
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CCTV everywhere down Cleethorpes these days.  Those that didn't get arrested yesterday will more than likely get a knock on their door in the coming weeks, also the Police Helicopter has high resolution cameras.


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Quoted from Nelly GTFC
CCTV everywhere down Cleethorpes these days.  Those that didn't get arrested yesterday will more than likely get a knock on their door in the coming weeks, plus the Police Helicopter has high resolution cameras.


Well let's hope so - it would have been a lot better if the problems had been prevented before they happened though. As soon as away ticket sales got above 500, alarm bells should have been ringing and I'm pretty sure there would have been far fewer come on a Tuesday night.
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FAO davec

What's all this 'we' when you refer to what happened prior to the Alfreton game in Sheffield

I didn't smash anything up

My friends who I go to games with didn't smash anything up

None of the people I know who follow Town smashed anything up

Just remember it's the minority who ruin it for the rest of us, anyone smashing anything up isn't doing so in the interests of Grimsby Town (no matter what they tell you) it's too satisfy and compensate for the chemical imbalance in their 'brains' and possibly something lacking in the trouser department


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It's  been mentioned every time we have a large away following there is trouble, and the sole reason for this is our current police liaison officer Doddsy.

The thing is the lads these days make it all to easy for the so called intelligence officers, when it comes locating the RISK element and yesterday was no exception. Doddsy would of known exactly where both sets of these RISK supporters where and it was clearly obvious what was to follow.

The difference between Dodds and his predecessor Alan Rutter was simple,Rutter was all about preventative measures stopping the mobs in there tracks before they came into contact, I would say he had a lot of success with this method and would lead to potential rucks being diluted down to nothing more than bit of cat and mouse between old bill and the frustrated risk element.

Where as this Dodds is only interested in football related arrest figures, and this is his method... Locate rival RISK elements, get the cameras at the ready, wait for the action and roll, survey video footage over the coming months, dawn raids Aprox 6mths later for identified hooligans, massive arrest figures on the football arrest table, job done and Dodds head grows even bigger.

So as you can see two different methods of policing with alternative results one prevents disorder, and innocent members of the public getting caught up in the violence but with minimal arrests, the other does clearly not give a excrement about the family's day out in Cleethorpes enjoying their hols but will eventUally get some arrests in all be it the home fans only.

I say it's time we called for Dodds head his sole responsibility must still be to protect the public, he may of got away with this method in the past but yesterday it failed him and the public miserably with his main objection, time for a different role Mr Dodds traffic warden would be right up your street, your time is up good bye good riddance.


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