Trouble in Cleethorpes

Quoted from Tinymariner

Why shouldn't we be allowed to play a decent club in preseason? If some idiots want to fight then that should not stop what was a good 90 mins for both sets of players. Better measures should have been implemented to prevent large groups of mindless thugs from congregating in Clee.

How exactly would you set about doing that? It would take a huge police presence. The arrival of the away fans would be staggered and they would be largely by car. The police already know where the trouble will be. They move on the Grimsby yobs in the Avenue and sea front but they can't lock 'em up unless they do something so they just disperse and come back together a few minutes later. The away fans do the same at the bars on High Street and Alex Road.

I've lost count of the number of times over the years I've seen this happen at Cleethorpes with Yorkshire teams. As soon as it's summer time or a bank holiday it makes it even worse.

So why do it voluntarily? Why put the people of Cleethorpes and summer visitors at risk? Why cost the taxpayers a fortune in policing costs? (Will the club shell out some of the gate money for that? Not on your life.) Why do all this for the sake of a meaningless non-competitive match? There must be other teams of similar quality and standing we could play without causing this sort of aggravation in the town. Someone at the club dropped a b@llock here.

From the point of view of a club that needs all the community support it can get this is a PR disaster. Look at the letters in the GT and see how it has given ammunition to the anti-new ground lot. Listen to what people think around Cleethorpes about Saturday. It's the last thing the club needs.

We are in our own little world here on the Fishy but at least most of us do think about the bigger picture of life from time to time. It looks like the people at BP are in an even smaller world than ours.

Hope that he recovers soon Tim.

Quoted from Les Brechin

Hope that he recovers soon Tim.

Cheers Les

I know Hull doesn't hold too many happy memories for you but fingers crossed, here's hoping he pulls through once the hospital's staff get on with sorting him out

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

Cheers Les

I know Hull doesn't hold too many happy memories for you but fingers crossed, here's hoping he pulls through once the hospital's staff get on with sorting him out

True, I was in Hull Royal Infirmary though and the care there was superb and I'm told Castle Hill is supposed to be a better hospital, so lets hope they can get him sorted mate.

Quoted from FishOutOfWater

I first heard about it when I called in to see my uncle & aunt after the match Chris

Just talking in general as you do about things, catching up, having a cuppa and mentioned there'd been some skirmishes in and around Cleethorpes

Then just after 6-00 my aunt got a call from her friend in bit of a tizz saying she was at the hospital with her son who'd been attacked and she was understandably shocked and wanted to talk

Got told this morning about the latest developments...as its stands, he's obviously in the best place for his injuries but a worrying time for all concerned  

Hope he makes a full and swift recovery.

Quoted from Tinymariner

Why shouldn't we be allowed to play a decent club in preseason? If some idiots want to fight then that should not stop what was a good 90 mins for both sets of players. Better measures should have been implemented to prevent large groups of mindless thugs from congregating in Clee.

So you think it was a good idea to organise it on a Saturday afternoon allowing an assortment of idiots to get drunk up and impersonate football fans?

No, I'm saying that we shouldn't allow mindless idiots to ruin our sport.

Quoted from Tinymariner

No, I'm saying that we shouldn't allow mindless idiots to ruin our sport.

We shouldn't I agree ... However the writing was on the wall regarding this fixture and humberside police completely failed to keep law and order in Cleethorpes.when the blades left sheff station at 9 am on sat did the British transport plod  radio through to Gy and say no risk element travelling all just coming for a jolly boys outing???

Quoted from Tinymariner

No, I'm saying that we shouldn't allow mindless idiots to ruin our sport.

Maybe not - but they have been for years and every fanbase has a number of neanderthals hellbent on causing mindless and senseless damage to both people and property. The organisation of Saturday's fixture gave them an ideal opportunity to do so.

Quoted from grimps

I wasn't blaming the average Bobby , I was blaming the officer that gets paid to be in charge of policing Grimsby games

Well I blame the moronic fans from both sets of supporters who can't just enjoy a day out to a football match without getting totally bladdered and then want to take on the world. There is something about the British psyche that involves having to consume large amounts of alcohol just to have a good time. I know I will get some indignant replies to this but I have been in many countries but you can always tell the Brits by their drunken behaviour whether that is in Greece, Spain, Turkey, Bulgaria or France. The only place I haven't witnessed their drunken behaviour is in the US but then again you have to be 21 to drink there ( very sensible in my opinion ) and you would certainly get short shrift from the US police if you did misbehave.