The Trust

Quoted from 1600

Thanks but I have no questions.

I was merely referring to thebigeasy's OWN bizarre and contradictory logic.
He seems to think if I disagree about joining, I need to speak to GTST so they can send me around in circles again.

Every answer I've received begs a different question - suffice to say there comes a point when you realise you're never gonna get any real answers at all !

So after listening to GTST, I feel I have all the "information" I need, and I'm left with "issues" about why a group meant to represent supporters is a private members club with no transparent goals, no visible direction and a very poor marketing stategy.

I have no desire to put your efforts down for the sake of it, I just feel you're failing the supporters, but even more than that, failing yourselves, but I sincerely hope I'll be proved wrong in time.

Thanks for suggesting you can't answer my questions because you're not on the board, but then going straight ahead and answering other people's questions.  

My only real question is, are you (or even a GTST board member) willing to have an open public forum debate with me about the role of GTST, it's goals etc on here ? (without involving the childish brainless element who resort to namecalling)


I already have all the "information" I need to form my own opinion thankyou.  

You say my £12 "doesn't matter one jot" but then say I'm tightfisted and should be prepared to pay just to find out what GTST do !!!
Your logic is all over the place ! Truly unbelievable....

Now I've got nothing against anyone and I hope eveything succeeds.
But when people question if it's an effective strategy, instead of giving reasonable answers people like you label them as idiots, stupid etc.
Suffice to say, it's sure proof you don't have a leg to stand on.

Representing supporters ? Sounds like it's more like slagging them off ?!

You also seem to think people should have to do all their speaking with GTST and shouldn't be allowed to discuss their "issues" or share their opinions on here ?


It's free country I'll say what I want.
I suggest you shut your trap and stop abusing and mouthing off at people telling them what to do.

Whether I can make it or not(and I can't) it's called free speech on a open public forum.
Tough !

Let me tell you, you may think treating people who don't agree like sh1t is the answer, but it won't help.
Fact is, your complete U-turn has shown what a spineless individual you really are.
I trusted you before, I certainly don't trust you now !

If you want to debate the issues maturely fine, let's debate them.
But once you get personal and abusive you've lost the argument.


http://www.thefishy.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1321999193/s-40/#num42

One can only assume you're not reading the fishy or following the football very much.

Quoted from TWAreaTownSupporter

Chris, I've NEVER criticised anyone for volunteering to work for the Trust. I've been one of the biggest defenders on this and other boards. I have even bitten back on criticism in the past. This isn't a personal criticism. It's a criticism of the decision making, which I do find naive.

The Trust is now a major shareholder so it does have an influence now. Regardless of the final arithmetic of how many shares were behind JF. Sometimes you have to say when something isn't right. You may not think it isn't right (your perogative) but you've raised the "we can't make a difference anyway" argument so I'll say that isn't a valid argument at all. Much better to be seen as being against JF's re-election even if he eventually is re-elected. I understand the "pick your battles" point of view but this is one of those occasions when its better to be on the losing than the "winning" side.

As regards my naive comment, I stand by it. There was an opportunity to demand something in return for that support. I.E. the dropping of the board membership rule about having to put forward £x over and above the ownership of shares. We've heard today how little the other directors have put in overall. Or how about, an agreement which clips his wings and stops him making the rash decisions which have buggered the club up financially and ditched any hope of continuity?

"How then do you propose we work with him moving forward in the interests of the club?" are you saying he is such a petty man that he won't work with the Trust if it votes against him? In any mature relationship, all parties are entitled to make their views known. If any party isn't prepared to accept others may disagree, then it isn't a relationship worth having.


With respect to any alternatives, no one has answered the question I've raised a number of times. Are you saying John Fenty will not meet the commitments he made pre-season if he isn't re-elected?
No one has answered that question.

Reagarding the lack of alternative backers, I keep coming back to the last question. In addition I'd ask, how long before his leadership kills the club once and for all?

So all in all, not a good decision.

Quoted from Chris

The slight drawback to be being involved is that as an individual it does somewhat make you carefully consider every post you make in public forums just to ensure your own opinion cant be misconstrued as the trust opinion.  I will find thsi quite hard to deal with I think because Im a pretty straight talking sort of guy usually.