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I respect you and the others for volunteering to take on what at times will be a thankless task. And I understand it's nearly a completely new Trust board and that there's a transitional phase and that it takes time to build credibility. But I don't think the proposed path is in the long-term interests of the club or the Trust.
What you seem to be saying is if John Fenty isn't voted back onto the board he will pull the plug on the financial commitment he made at the start of the season (having set a budget that isn't covered by the operating revenue of the club)?
If that's the case I don't think the Trust should go anywhere near a "yes" vote. This is such a contentious issue a vote either way ought not to be taken without canvassing the members. I know you've recently been elected but I don't recall any mention of a JF's candidature for the club board in any of the manifestos.
I thought all trust members had/would have been canvassed...???
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Grim_Exile |
November 22, 2011, 8:09pm |
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I respect you and the others for volunteering to take on what at times will be a thankless task. And I understand it's nearly a completely new Trust board and that there's a transitional phase and that it takes time to build credibility. But I don't think the proposed path is in the long-term interests of the club or the Trust.
What you seem to be saying is if John Fenty isn't voted back onto the board he will pull the plug on the financial commitment he made at the start of the season (having set a budget that isn't covered by the operating revenue of the club)?
If that's the case I don't think the Trust should go anywhere near a "yes" vote. This is such a contentious issue a vote either way ought not to be taken without canvassing the members. I know you've recently been elected but I don't recall any mention of a JF's candidature for the club board in any of the manifestos.
TW - as you know, the GTFC agenda simply makes reference to election of directors. The directors seeking re-election are not named. GTST asked the club for confirmation of which directors were seeking election - we only found out it was definitely JF last week (which was after the GTST AGM agenda and candidate manifestos had been published). There was some healthy discussion at the Trust AGM last week regarding this, and there was unanimous agreement in the room that supporting JFs re-election to the GTFC Board was in the best interest of the club at the current time. Put it simply - is GTFC better with JF on the board or not, at this present time?
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Informer the real one |
November 22, 2011, 11:51pm |
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How is the the rest of the shares and then the Fenty Loans that hang over the club a few more quid?
I guess Fenty has said that he wouldn't expect the loans back unless they were affordable and Parke had 54% control. The only block of shares which had value.
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forza ivano |
November 23, 2011, 11:06am |
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aren't shares still available to buy?
those who have such issues with the trust could alwys buy shares from the club - they would be giving their money and support to the club, would have a say and would be given info on the clubs finances etc. with abit of luck they then wouldn't have to come on here bitching and bleating about what the trust does or doesn't do
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The Grim Reaper |
November 23, 2011, 11:10am |
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Grim Exile, I refer to my previous question which has been ignored; why is there nothing on the OS regarding GTST announcments etc?
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Grim_Exile |
November 23, 2011, 1:00pm |
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headingly_mariner |
November 23, 2011, 6:23pm |
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TW - as you know, the GTFC agenda simply makes reference to election of directors. The directors seeking re-election are not named. GTST asked the club for confirmation of which directors were seeking election - we only found out it was definitely JF last week (which was after the GTST AGM agenda and candidate manifestos had been published).
There was some healthy discussion at the Trust AGM last week regarding this, and there was unanimous agreement in the room that supporting JFs re-election to the GTFC Board was in the best interest of the club at the current time. Put it simply - is GTFC better with JF on the board or not, at this present time?
But it is not a simple question is it? It surely depends on the terms of Fenty's involvement with the club and the future of his loans. If the club is going to be run the same way as it has been since he has been major shareholder then voting him back onto the board is ridiculous. IMO the trust has fallen at the first hurdle and has voted for more of the same.
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Kris Mustampa |
November 23, 2011, 6:28pm |
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But it is not a simple question is it? It surely depends on the terms of Fenty's involvement with the club and the future of his loans. If the club is going to be run the same way as it has been since he has been major shareholder then voting him back onto the board is ridiculous. IMO the trust has fallen at the first hurdle and has voted for more of the same.
Just because the majority of the members who expressed an opinion differ from you doesnt make them wrong and you right (or vice versa). You seem to have a strange lack of ability to understand democracy
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voice of reason |
November 23, 2011, 6:32pm |
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Just because the majority of the members who expressed an opinion differ from you doesnt make them wrong and you right (or vice versa).
You seem to have a strange lack of ability to understand democracy
"Unanimous agreement in the room" doesn't really translate to "the majority of members" does it...???
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Kris Mustampa |
November 23, 2011, 7:03pm |
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"Unanimous agreement in the room" doesn't really translate to "the majority of members" does it...???
The majority of members who expressed an opinion is what i posted (you just chose to cut some of the sentence out). As i understand it members were invited to send their views via e-mail plus those who attended the agm
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