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This is why I argued that we should have pushed the boat out to get the Cowley brothers. I don’t doubt there’s probably a decent coach in Artell, but I can see us dropping a lot of points through not being pragmatic in our play.
Just a suggestion, but wouldn’t it be prudent to make a judgement when the manager gets his own players in rather than some knee jerk reaction to a defeat against a team that’s only lost once all season?
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This is why I argued that we should have pushed the boat out to get the Cowley brothers.
How do you know we didn’t “push the boat out” to get the Cowley’s? How do you know they were even interested, or would have come whatever was offered? Unless you have some insider knowledge of the recruitment process, we simply don’t know who was interested, or offered contracts.
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December 27, 2023, 3:36pm |
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Just a suggestion, but wouldn’t it be prudent to make a judgement when the manager gets his own players in rather than some knee jerk reaction to a defeat against a team that’s only lost once all season?
My reaction isn’t a knee jerk one. It’s been consistent since before Artell came in. By the time the manager has got his players in, we could already be in the National League. That’s why my preference would have been to get someone in who is pragmatic and can get the points on the board with what we have.
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MuddyWaters |
December 27, 2023, 3:39pm |
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My reaction isn’t a knee jerk one. It’s been consistent since before Artell came in. By the time the manager has got his players in, we could already be in the National League. That’s why my preference would have been to get someone in who is pragmatic and can get the points on the board with what we have.
We got rid of ‘pragmatic’. He got one lucky win in 11 games (Barrow).
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December 27, 2023, 3:42pm |
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My reaction isn’t a knee jerk one. It’s been consistent since before Artell came in. By the time the manager has got his players in, we could already be in the National League. That’s why my preference would have been to get someone in who is pragmatic and can get the points on the board with what we have.
The Cowley’s famously require their teams to get at least 23 crosses in to the box per game as stats show on average it will lead to a goal if that number is met. Other than Glennon, how many hours do you think we’d need to play for them to hit that number? I think Mullarkey could play for a week non-stop and not deliver 23 crosses into the box.
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davmariner |
December 27, 2023, 3:59pm |
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The Cowley’s famously require their teams to get at least 23 crosses in to the box per game as stats show on average it will lead to a goal if that number is met. Other than Glennon, how many hours do you think we’d need to play for them to hit that number? I think Mullarkey could play for a week non-stop and not deliver 23 crosses into the box.
We know that’s one of the approaches they used to get the best out of the team they had at the time. They’re also known for devising an approach and adapting their strategy according to the tools that they have. We saw what happens when you try and get players who aren’t up to it to play a certain way under Holloway and it was a disaster. Time will tell whether our current team is as bad as that, but our league position shows it’s at least comparable. These players aren’t up to it.
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LocalLadGTFC |
December 27, 2023, 4:19pm |
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My reaction isn’t a knee jerk one. It’s been consistent since before Artell came in. By the time the manager has got his players in, we could already be in the National League. That’s why my preference would have been to get someone in who is pragmatic and can get the points on the board with what we have.
So take a short term plan that could fail over a long term and pragmatic approach? Gotcha
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December 27, 2023, 4:58pm |
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So take a short term plan that could fail over a long term and pragmatic approach? Gotcha
Using that logic (which isn’t what I said at all btw) you’d prefer a long term approach which could fail in the short term and see us relegated a third time to the National League? Gotcha.
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December 27, 2023, 5:01pm |
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So take a short term plan that could fail over a long term and pragmatic approach? Gotcha
So you are guaranteeing that this so called long term plan will succeed.
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December 27, 2023, 5:04pm |
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Kept off here yesterday. Lose two games and nobody is off limits for criticism for some. The panic is just ridiculous and the criticism at this stage is unjustified. It's two games, the manager has been here five minutes with someone else's players who shot their fragile confidence to bits. Settle down, stop being snowflakes and see the season out. We'll win around ten games and finish mid to lower table. Not the season we wished for, but that's what we'll get. After that, probably another season of building before threatening the top seven the season after, anything better will be a bonus, especially after Hurst has spunked the cup money already. The players have been and will be better than they've been for 120 minutes out of the last two games, I have faith in Artell to do that, and he'll probably need four windows to get us looking like a promotion side. It's going to take patience and your support to get there. Throwing every toy out of your pram after every single defeat isn't going to help the process. Time to stand up, support the players and manager through thick and thin, and be men for a while..
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