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There's a post match over reaction, but thinking Artell isn't the right man for this situation isn't completely crazy. He wants to play possession football with players that aren't capable. I understand he wants to play that way, but it should be a project that starts when we're safe and not looking like the 3rd worst team in the league. Even with the sacked manager effect we couldn't beat the bottom 2.
Right now we just need points. It's clear to see that we're not good enough to outplay footballing teams and we're too soft against battling teams.
To be fair to DA he said, after his first training session with the squad, that he was pleasantly surprised at the quality we had. The problem with a lot of our players seems to be an inability to transfer their skills and attributes from the training pitch to a match scenario. A lot of this could be down to confidence and this is an area where DA could overcome these issues.
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Have to say I'm surprised khouri hasnt made it into the squad. He has got the attributes we need ability confidence, can tackle can pass n has some creative skills
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To be fair to DA he said, after his first training session with the squad, that he was pleasantly surprised at the quality we had. The problem with a lot of our players seems to be an inability to transfer their skills and attributes from the training pitch to a match scenario. A lot of this could be down to confidence and this is an area where DA could overcome these issues.
I think we have some decent players, we appear short of a couple of leaders and organisers.
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Have to say I'm surprised khouri hasnt made it into the squad. He has got the attributes we need ability confidence, can tackle can pass n has some creative skills
Khouri has shown mild promise but never really done anything special. To think throwing a 20 year old with no real experience is going to change things is pretty desperate. The only decent players we've got are the ones not playing. Then when they get a chance we soon get a reminder why they weren't playing.
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rancido |
December 27, 2023, 10:17am |
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I think we have some decent players, we appear short of a couple of leaders and organisers.
Spot on. We are lacking a midfield general ( like Craig Disley) who can lead and inspire from the heart of the action.
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pontoonlew |
December 27, 2023, 10:56am |
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There's a post match over reaction, but thinking Artell isn't the right man for this situation isn't completely crazy. He wants to play possession football with players that aren't capable. I understand he wants to play that way, but it should be a project that starts when we're safe and not looking like the 3rd worst team in the league. Even with the sacked manager effect we couldn't beat the bottom 2.
Right now we just need points. It's clear to see that we're not good enough to outplay footballing teams and we're too soft against battling teams.
Nobody complained about the possession based football at MK, Oxford, Crewe or Newport though did they? A bad couple of games and people want us slapping the ball up into outer space. Artell said from the start it’s going to be painful whilst we build an identity, some days will be good and some bad. The worst thing we could do now is panic ourselves into moving away from the long term plan.
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MuddyWaters |
December 27, 2023, 11:19am |
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Nobody complained about the possession based football at MK, Oxford, Crewe or Newport though did they? A bad couple of games and people want us slapping the ball up into outer space.
Artell said from the start it’s going to be painful whilst we build an identity, some days will be good and some bad. The worst thing we could do now is panic ourselves into moving away from the long term plan.
Spot on. I would never advocate losing football games but defeats do make weaknesses more obvious. I’m sure the owners are savvy enough not to listen to some of the crap doing the rounds.
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I honestly don’t think Artells up to it.... of course I hope I am wrong but given our league position, how awful the squad is and the depth of experience in this league, I believe Artell has no experience when it comes to the issues being faced... I hate to think it, but I do believe we will drop into NL next season at which point Artell will leave... he really isn’t up to it.. sorry
He took over at Crewe when they were 7 points clear of the relegation places, more importantly on the back of picking up just 2 points from their previous eight games (a winless run that would go on for a further three games making it 2 points from a possible 33). Nevertheless they quite comfortably stayed up in the end and were effectively safe just over two months after he took over and with seven games to play. The two seasons after that they showed incremental improvements with 15th and 12th placed finishes before finishing 2nd on PPG in 19/20 (they top on goal difference when the season was curtailed but played a game more than Swindon who were awarded the title). I'd say he is perfectly equipped to deal with the issues at present. What part of his record at this level makes you think he's not up to it?
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December 27, 2023, 11:55am |
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The worst thing we could do now is panic ourselves into moving away from the long term plan.
Is there ever really a long term plan in football? Managers average a little over a season, they know they will be out in a few months if they don't get the results they need. Bignot and Holloway both spoke of grandiose plans and were gone before you know it. If we lose much more ground any plan will become irrelevant and it will be able about picking up points whatever it takes.
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There's a post match over reaction, but thinking Artell isn't the right man for this situation isn't completely crazy. He wants to play possession football with players that aren't capable. I understand he wants to play that way, but it should be a project that starts when we're safe and not looking like the 3rd worst team in the league. Even with the sacked manager effect we couldn't beat the bottom 2.
Right now we just need points. It's clear to see that we're not good enough to outplay footballing teams and we're too soft against battling teams.
This is why I argued that we should have pushed the boat out to get the Cowley brothers. I don’t doubt there’s probably a decent coach in Artell, but I can see us dropping a lot of points through not being pragmatic in our play.
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